New Book On Homosexual Behaviour

[arfink]

Having read some of the actual text in question, much of it is boring and pedantic, but there is some interesting stuff about the post-modern world's continued rejection of teleology that actually gets to the heart of the matter. Of course, the book does not address the far more interesting topic of what else you get to throw out with the bathwater besides the baby. The loss of teleology goes much further than sexual ethics.

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Do you Like Fishsticks ?

[Perigrina]

See the thing is, homosexuals are not a hate group with a history of murdering black ppl soo....yeah. 

 

Camparing homosexuals to the KKK is ridiculous and youre smarter than that.

 

Sewing for the KKK and baking for a same sex wedding are both situations in which I would consider myself complicit in the the sins of others and bound in conscience to refuse.  Apparently you do not have a problem with me following my conscience when it agrees with yours, but you want the government forcing me to act against my conscience when you disagree with it. I thought you believed in religious freedom.  

[CrossCuT]

Sewing for the KKK and baking for a same sex wedding are both situations in which I would consider myself complicit in the the sins of others and bound in conscience to refuse.  Apparently you do not have a problem with me following my conscience when it agrees with yours, but you want the government forcing me to act against my conscience when you disagree with it. I thought you believed in religious freedom.  

 

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[Perigrina]

Having read some of the actual text in question, much of it is boring and pedantic, but there is some interesting stuff about the post-modern world's continued rejection of teleology that actually gets to the heart of the matter. Of course, the book does not address the far more interesting topic of what else you get to throw out with the bathwater besides the baby. The loss of teleology goes much further than sexual ethics.

 

Yes, I got the impression from the reviews I read that it tended toward the pedantic, but that is part of its appeal to me.  I am rather fed up with how emotional and sensationalized anything to do with this topic has become.  I look forward to something dry and academic.  I think the loss of teleology is a very important topic even when the treatment of the subject is limited in scope.  There may even be some advantages to such limits.

 

An interesting feature of the Amazon reviews was that there were many 4 and 5 star ratings from people who had read the book, while 1 and 2 star ratings came from people who had not read the book.  Apparently some people just know that a book which takes the position that homosexual behaviour is wrong has to be a horrible book.

[Perigrina]

Save your money and read something from the American Family Association or Focus on the Famly. They probably spew the same stuff for free. Same old. This snippet shows that some religious people, who claim to know the answers, still don't understand much of anything. LGBT issues advanced after the general public moved on from the church. Church going is declining, even in the US. If you read this guy he seems to think its all about the homosexuals. He missed the ball, and probably always will. 

 

I do not see how you got the idea from what I posted that the author claims that the homosexualist movement is responsible for a decline in Church attendance.  Could you explain your reasoning please?

[Winchester]

Does it go into their dietary habits? I've always been curious about that area of homosexual behavior. I read a book by a person who lived among a group of homosexuals for several years, eventually was accepted as one of them, and invited into their curious rituals. 

 

 

Many people do not know this, but a group of male homosexuals is referred to as a "flounce".

Edited June 14, 2014 by Winchester

[Perigrina]

Homosexuals eat the same things as anyone else.  It is just arranged more artistically on the plate.

[CrossCuT]

Can we close this thread? srsly. Im getting tired of the bs.

[Perigrina]

 Furthermore I choose to follow God's will every day.  I have free will and am responsible for my actions. 

 

This is a really important point.  So much of the homosexualist rhetoric apparently assumes that people with SSA must act on their sexual attractions and that is a wrong assumption.  All people, regardless of who or what they are attracted to, must decide how to act based on God's will.

 

Church teaching calls everybody to chastity.  It does not single out people with SSA.  I am primarily heterosexual in my sexual attractions and I do not get to do whatever I want. 

[Norseman82]

"Natural Law"
Helping bigots rationalize their behavior since forever

 

So does that mean God is a bigot?

[Norseman82]

Great.  Another gay thread.

 

[Maggyie]

No you don't get to do anything you want, sexually, but heterosexuals do have an approved and even sacramental outlet for their sexual urges, if they find it necessary. Homosexuals have no chance of that ever being a possibility for them. Celibacy is a challenging charism and even more so if you have no choice whether to be celibate or not. This is an important distinction to make in presenting the Church's teaching. It's truly a unique cross.

[NotreDame]

C'mon!  10 pages!  We can do it!  Just go back through the last 100 gay posts from 2014 and cut'n'paste your favorite arguments.  We've barely rehashed 10% so far.  So there's so much new material left!

[Norseman82]

Does it go into their dietary habits? I've always been curious about that area of homosexual behavior. I read a book by a person who lived among a group of homosexuals for several years, eventually was accepted as one of them, and invited into their curious rituals. 

 

 

 

 

Cheese? 

 

(for those who know the reference) 

Edited June 14, 2014 by Norseman82

[Norseman82]

No you don't get to do anything you want, sexually, but heterosexuals do have an approved and even sacramental outlet for their sexual urges, if they find it necessary. Homosexuals have no chance of that ever being a possibility for them. Celibacy is a challenging charism and even more so if you have no choice whether to be celibate or not. This is an important distinction to make in presenting the Church's teaching. It's truly a unique cross.

 

They have the same opportunity to enter into a sacramental marriage with someone of the opposite gender as everyone else who doesn't have a canonical impediment. 

[Credo in Deum]

Can we close this thread? srsly. Im getting tired of the bs.

[Perigrina]

No you don't get to do anything you want, sexually, but heterosexuals do have an approved and even sacramental outlet for their sexual urges, if they find it necessary. Homosexuals have no chance of that ever being a possibility for them. Celibacy is a challenging charism and even more so if you have no choice whether to be celibate or not. This is an important distinction to make in presenting the Church's teaching. It's truly a unique cross.

 

I agree.  Thanks for pointing this out.  As a woman who is married to a husband who is as close to perfect as is humanly possibly, I think I must have the easiest path of all when it comes to the call to chastity.  Some people are married to difficult spouses.  Some are single, with little hope of finding someone, while longing to be married .  Some have SSA, which is probably the heaviest cross of all.

 

I am constantly struggling with sins against chastity, even in my relatively easy situation, so I have great respect and admiration for anyone who battles in the more difficult ones, especially people with SSA. 

[Perigrina]

C'mon!  10 pages!  We can do it!  Just go back through the last 100 gay posts from 2014 and cut'n'paste your favorite arguments.  We've barely rehashed 10% so far.  So there's so much new material left!

 

I figure we can get at least two pages out of people complaining about the thread.

[NotreDame]

I figure we can get at least two pages out of people complaining about the thread.

 

for two pages?  Sure.  But for 10 pages we are going to need some serious flame wars, probably the "R" word, and a descent into meme-dom to get over the finish line.