Nihil Obstat Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 for two pages? Sure. But for 10 pages we are going to need some serious flame wars, probably the "R" word, and a descent into meme-dom to get over the finish line. http://youtu.be/vI5LYqCFrwE
Semper Catholic Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Hmm let's see there's some people who want to have a grownup discussion and some who want to be children. Sure is difficult facing the issue isn't it?
Semper Catholic Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 I agree. Thanks for pointing this out. As a woman who is married to a husband who is as close to perfect as is humanly possibly, I think I must have the easiest path of all when it comes to the call to chastity. Some people are married to difficult spouses. Some are single, with little hope of finding someone, while longing to be married . Some have SSA, which is probably the heaviest cross of all. I am constantly struggling with sins against chastity, even in my relatively easy situation, so I have great respect and admiration for anyone who battles in the more difficult ones, especially people with SSA. I think you would find your cross more difficult as well if millions of people crusaded against it.
Lilllabettt Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 lets make a list of all the people i hate/fear because I think their lifestyle choice is a sin and I don't think federal tax benefits should be one of the products of their lifestyle choice. TYPES OF PEOPLE I FEAR/HATE i'm a sempercatholicphobe, first of all. cuz fornication. and contraceptors ... so, most people. but especially gays. all kinds of gays. actually all folks who identify as LGBT ... actually LGBTQ ... the Q stands for questioning. or queer if you know the person real well and they have a sense of humor. But we all know gays dont have one of those, at least not one that they are aware of. So that last thing is pointless. .... and actually its LGBTQIA, anyway ... if you don't know what the I and A are for go soak you're head, you're ignorant. At least I know what I'm a hater of. god. my current sexual orientation is: robert downey jr. so it should be LGBTQIARDJ. I'm a self-hater. I have nothing to fear but I fear myself. I knew it!
Credo in Deum Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 lets make a list of all the people i hate/fear because I think their lifestyle choice is a sin and I don't think federal tax benefits should be one of the products of their lifestyle choice. TYPES OF PEOPLE I FEAR/HATE i'm a sempercatholicphobe, first of all. cuz fornication. and contraceptors ... so, most people. but especially gays. all kinds of gays. actually all folks who identify as LGBT ... actually LGBTQ ... the Q stands for questioning. or qwerty if you know the person real well and they have a sense of humor. But we all know gays dont have one of those, at least not one that they are aware of. So that last thing is pointless. .... and actually its LGBTQIA, anyway ... if you don't know what the I and A are for go soak you're head, you're ignorant. At least I know what I'm a hater of. god. my current sexual orientation is: robert downey jr. so it should be LGBTQIARDJ. I'm a self-hater. I have nothing to fear but I fear myself. I knew it!
Perigrina Posted June 14, 2014 Author Posted June 14, 2014 Hmm let's see there's some people who want to have a grownup discussion and some who want to be children. Sure is difficult facing the issue isn't it? I have no difficulty facing the issue. However, if I have to choose between a flame war and posting memes, I choose memes. I would very much like to have a reasonable, civil, and charitable discussion of this topic. If we discuss it, I promise to talk about ideas rather than posters, to make no personal attacks, to address everyone courteously and to wait until I have calmed down if I am tempted to post in anger. I encourage anyone else who wishes to discuss this to follow guidelines of this sort.
Perigrina Posted June 14, 2014 Author Posted June 14, 2014 I think you would find your cross more difficult as well if millions of people crusaded against it. Yes, some people have a horrible attitude to people with SSA and that is one of the things that makes their cross more difficult.
NotreDame Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Hmm let's see there's some people who want to have a grownup discussion and some who want to be children. Sure is difficult facing the issue isn't it? An adult discussion? Is that what you were having?
Perigrina Posted June 14, 2014 Author Posted June 14, 2014 An adult discussion? Is that what you were having? Not that I object to seeing pictures of Harrison Ford, but this sort of thing does not contribute to civil discussion.
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 No one can force you to believe anything. Also, our secular government is not saying its morally ok...they are saying its legally ok. They have an obligation to uphold the rights for all their members regardless of someones religious objectification. Robert Reily sounds like a tool. Marriage is not a right. No sacrament is.
NotreDame Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Not that I object to seeing pictures of Harrison Ford, but this sort of thing does not contribute to civil discussion. I'm sure that's what you think you were having, but to anyone who has been around longer than 4 weeks, it's just a couple of new people debating the same two phishy people, rehashing the same arguments that had gone on ad nauseam on 20 other threads the few months before you got here.
Perigrina Posted June 14, 2014 Author Posted June 14, 2014 It is quite reasonable for people to decide they are bored, exasperated, or whatever, with the topic and refrain from participating in the discussion. I daresay it is possible to ignore the thread. It must be possible not to click on it. It is less reasonable for people to decide that nobody should be allowed to discuss the topic and to try to disrupt other people's discussions.
CrossCuT Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Marriage is not a right. No sacrament is. You dont get it.
PhuturePriest Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 You dont get it. Don't redefine marriage. If you want civil unions, that's a different issue entirely, but you can't redefine marriage.
stevil Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Why are Americans being forced to consider homosexual acts as morally acceptable?Given that there is no difinitive source of morality and given USA politics it seems USA people are left to decide for themselves what is morally acceptable or not.Some people choose to join an organisation and let that organisation tell them what is morally acceptable or not e.g. Catholic church.Some people decide for themselves,Others see it as a futile excercuse.Why has the US Supreme Court accepted the validity of same-sex "marriage"Probably because they recognise that people have the right to love, and the right to form a family.Government probably deem it not the government's business to interfere in the lives of concenting adults whom present no threat or danger to society.and how has it so easily conquered America?As religious dogma has lost its prejudice and oppresive grip on people, people have decided to mind their own business and not to judge or oppress others unless it makes society dangerous.
Winchester Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Don't redefine marriage. If you want civil unions, that's a different issue entirely, but you can't redefine marriage.
Not The Philosopher Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 The SS. SSA Thread sails again! What perilous adventures will her crew meet this time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lROzTzpsK54
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