BarbTherese Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 I think that many things can influence (or tend to influence) on the human level in the course of a lifetime - but where there is increase, fruit and flowering, it is a work of Grace alone through various channels and it is Grace that is indispensable to the situations, not the channels. Luke Ch17 "So you also, when you shall have done all these things that are commanded you, say: We are unprofitable servants; we have done that which we ought to do." We are unprofitable because it is always a work of Grace in all good things great and small. "All is Grace" (St Therese of Lisieux) We are called to be 'walking talking Gospels' and as attributed often to St Francis of Assisi "Preach The Gospel, with words if necessary". The most powerful and effective means of Grace on earth is The Mass and The Sacraments both for those attending faithfully and at the one and same time for the whole world. It is a great Mystery. Psalm 145 http://www.drbo.org/chapter/21145.htm "Put not your trust in princes: In the children of men, in whom there is no salvation." lst Epistle of Paul to The Corinthians " http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=53&ch=3&l=4#x For while one saith, I indeed am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo; are you not men? What then is Apollo, and what is Paul? The ministers of him whom you have believed; and to every one as the Lord hath given. I have planted, Apollo watered, but God gave the increase. Therefore, neither he that planteth is any thing, nor he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase." [/quote]
KnightofChrist Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Well I guess Im a weak sinner. Ive allowed their representation to taint my view of the church. I wish I could reverse it with a snap of my fingers though! My dear sweet friend, Goonies never say die!
CrossCuT Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 My dear sweet friend, Goonies never say die! Sloth love Chunk!
PhuturePriest Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 As an avid Sean Astin fan, it is my duty to inform you that The Goonies is incredibly overrated and does not hold up unless you have sentimental reasons for loving it. I think the reason why you struggle with the Church is because you are allowing yourself to be tainted and indoctrinated by The Goonies, which is undoubtedly what has kept Sean Astin out despite he himself saying he's wanted to join and was even in RCIA at one point.
Nunsense Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Your words here do an enormous discredit to the sufferings many cradle Catholics endure. 'Converts' do not have the monopoly on struggles with faith. Being 'brought up in Catholicism' is never a guarantee that things are 'black and white,' nor is it a guarantee against apostasy. My statement was that 'I just don't think that cradle Catholics can have any concept of how difficult it can be for a non believer to make it across the great divide.' If you see in that statement some kind of comparison to 'sufferings' of anyone else on earth (Catholic or not) or a 'black and white' view of the world, then you are really reaching for it. I stand by my statement and wonder why it is that you can't simply be grateful for the great gift of having been born into the faith, whether you rebelled against it or not. I didn't say you didn't have difficulties but to be born into a family where God was at least a possibility and Jesus was a part of you life, however small, is a giant step in the right direction. It's a part of you that you can't even comprehend because you are too close to it. But then we often take for granted the things that we are given. You are just trying to pick a fight. Not interested.
Nihil Obstat Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 You are just trying to pick a fight. Not interested. Sounds familiar.
Gabriela Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Sheesh, go to work for a day and look what happens... Gentle reminder, Pham: This is a thread about preaching!
Nunsense Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Sheesh, go to work for a day and look what happens... Gentle reminder, Pham: This is a thread about preaching! You just can't take a day off from this place without coming back to all manner of excitement, can you? Just be glad, Lent is nearly over!! Now I return you to your regular scheduled program -- preaching. .
veritasluxmea Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Sheesh, go to work for a day and look what happens... Gentle reminder, Pham: This is a thread about preaching! I wouldn't show this thread to any priests ;)
KnightofChrist Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 As an avid Sean Astin fan, it is my duty to inform you that The Goonies is incredibly overrated and does not hold up unless you have sentimental reasons for loving it. I think the reason why you struggle with the Church is because you are allowing yourself to be tainted and indoctrinated by The Goonies, which is undoubtedly what has kept Sean Astin out despite he himself saying he's wanted to join and was even in RCIA at one point. Shaka, when the walls fell!
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