PhuturePriest Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 I agree with Maggyie. It isn't realistic to make a living as an apologist. It would have to be something that you volunteer to do or you'd need to be a freelance author. (It takes a lot of time to put even one book together and you get little money for getting a book published.) This thread isn't about the realism of this, it's about college. I have thought all these things through, and I have spoken to actual apologists, who know much more about this than any of you do. I appreciate the concern, but please discontinue telling me how unrealistic my plans are when you have no clue how the field actually works.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 5,018. Anarchists cannot vote in the sovereign state of Nihil Obstatistan.
Catlick Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 "antiracism" is one of Satan's lies? Really? I said 'antiracism', not antiracism. I mean a particular form of opposition to racism, in which nearly every utterance in Western historical sources/parliaments/courts/whatever place men traditionally dominate, is interpreted as 'agression' aimed at preserving the purity of the White race and damaging the interests of the Black race *cough* 'African-American community'. The underlying assumption here is that people act only out of a self-interest and Will to Power, and that there can be no pure striving towards the Good, the Beautiful, and the True. It need not be said that this closes a student's mind to the truths of the Catholic Faith (or Greek philosophy or anything of intellectual value.) Of course there's a another, valid form of antiracism, preached by the Catholic Church (Pius XI or XII, if I remember correctly.)
CrossCuT Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 What is with all the liberal brainwashing popping up?
Winchester Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Anarchists cannot vote in the sovereign state of Nihil Obstatistan. This is the Dustatorship, though.
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 This is the Dustatorship, though. He that does all the work and pays the bills when donations aren't enough gets to make the rules.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 This is the Dustatorship, though. No, I seceded. It is the right of every individual.
PhuturePriest Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 I seceded to move to Rivendell. It's a lot nicer here, and better yet, welding doesn't exist.
veritasluxmea Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Learn to weld. welding isn't going to get you *that* far in life tbh, especially if you don't own your own property and welding equipment. Which you need a real job to buy.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Friend of mine is a welder. Really good guy. He told me he wants to get out of it though, into something a bit less physically punishing.
veritasluxmea Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 My friend knew someone in the south who worked as a welder and farrier and he avoided taxes for years. Eventually he found a woman and wanted to get married but no Church (catholic or protestant) would let them because he wouldn't apply for a state license because he didn't want to get in trouble for not paying his taxes. so they just moved in together. I guess he still hasn't paid his taxes. Not that that's relevant or anything.
Winchester Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 My friend knew someone in the south who worked as a welder and farrier and he avoided taxes for years. Eventually he found a woman and wanted to get married but no Church (catholic or protestant) would let them because he wouldn't apply for a state license because he didn't want to get in trouble for not paying his taxes. so they just moved in together. I guess he still hasn't paid his taxes. Not that that's relevant or anything. It is morally repugnant that the Church wants permission from the state to perform a sacrament. Catholic marriages should occur before the government permission slip is issued. It would also be nice if the priests always mentioned that the only reason to get a license is to possibly get some tax breaks and thus deny the murder machine that is the government of some small amount of money.
Winchester Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 No, I seceded. It is the right of every individual. That doesn't change the fact that here we vote. Do whatever you want with boring ass Rivendell, which is clearly an autocracy.
Winchester Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 The votes for learning to weld are now over 5000.
Winchester Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 welding isn't going to get you *that* far in life tbh, especially if you don't own your own property and welding equipment. Which you need a real job to buy. What do you mean by "far in life"?
truthfinder Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 It is morally repugnant that the Church wants permission from the state to perform a sacrament. Catholic marriages should occur before the government permission slip is issued. It would also be nice if the priests always mentioned that the only reason to get a license is to possibly get some tax breaks and thus deny the murder machine that is the government of some small amount of money. This is one topic where the church certainly is 'stuck' in medieval thinking. The church married people and the state recognized it. Now the state allows groups to wed people. The church was rightly concerned about marriage considering clandestine marriages as well as the later practices such as mariage a la guamine where the people practically declared themselves married (a glorified common-law wedding really). The church is right though to demand that the state continues to recognize marriage - it is a building block of society. So then, where does that leave the church - with the ability for her priests to sign off on marriage licenses (or married by banns where it's still legal) or to completely separate itself from the state by making the couple go through the civil ceremony first and then the religious one later?
Winchester Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 This is one topic where the church certainly is 'stuck' in medieval thinking. The church married people and the state recognized it. Now the state allows groups to wed people. The church was rightly concerned about marriage considering clandestine marriages as well as the later practices such as mariage a la guamine where the people practically declared themselves married (a glorified common-law wedding really). The church is right though to demand that the state continues to recognize marriage - it is a building block of society. So then, where does that leave the church - with the ability for her priests to sign off on marriage licenses (or married by banns where it's still legal) or to completely separate itself from the state by making the couple go through the civil ceremony first and then the religious one later? I think they should conduct marriages and ignore the state altogether. If people want to go get a license, fine, but the Church shouldn't be concerned at all with such dealings. The declarations of criminal syndicates shouldn't play into sacraments.
PhuturePriest Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 This is one topic where the church certainly is 'stuck' in medieval thinking. The church married people and the state recognized it. Now the state allows groups to wed people. The church was rightly concerned about marriage considering clandestine marriages as well as the later practices such as mariage a la guamine where the people practically declared themselves married (a glorified common-law wedding really). The church is right though to demand that the state continues to recognize marriage - it is a building block of society. So then, where does that leave the church - with the ability for her priests to sign off on marriage licenses (or married by banns where it's still legal) or to completely separate itself from the state by making the couple go through the civil ceremony first and then the religious one later? There are major issues this demand by the Church imposes. In Dodge City, there's a very high Mexican population, and a fair percentage of that population are not legal citizens. The diocese is in a bind because many of the parishioners are avoiding marriage altogether because they don't want to be exposed as illegal, and this poses obvious moral issues on behalf of those people forgoing marriage and shacking up.
PhuturePriest Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 That doesn't change the fact that here we vote. Do whatever you want with boring ass Rivendell, which is clearly an autocracy. I'm fine with autocracy.
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