RandomProddy Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 23 2004, 07:38 PM'] Ireland long a province be, A NATION ONCE AGAIN! A NATION ONCE AGAIN! A NATION ONCE AGAIN! get out of Northern Ireland, all the Protestants can go with you back to England! LEAVE IRELAND ALONE. arg [/quote] Straw poll of northern Ireland says.... No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='RandomProddy' date='Jun 23 2004, 02:20 PM'] Yes, he can. If he did he couldn't approve the Archbishops and Bishops though, but there are ways to accomodate this. We had a Jewish PM before (Disraeli). Again I clarify: The only two people who can't be Roman Catholic are the Monarch and his/her spouse. The Monarch has to be Anglican, the spouse can be anything but RC. [/quote] That's not what the multiple news people have said, when they were talking about him going to Mass with his wife. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jun 23 2004, 07:42 PM'] That's not what the multiple news people have said, when they were talking about him going to Mass with his wife. God Bless, ironmonk [/quote] Well, I don't think it's going to stop him.. [url="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12665855&method=full&siteid=50143"]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page....ll&siteid=50143[/url] Edited June 23, 2004 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Found this: [url="http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Prod/Parlment/HansArt.nsf/0/ca256d11000bd3aa4a25682a00151d84?OpenDocument"]http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Prod/Parl...84?OpenDocument[/url] Seems the news people where wrong again... but none the less...it's still bigotry to say that a Catholic may not be head of state. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jun 23 2004, 07:49 PM'] but none the less...it's still bigotry to say that a Catholic may not be head of state. [/quote] Could an Anglican or muslim be the head of state of the Vatican? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='RandomProddy' date='Jun 23 2004, 12:39 PM'] Straw poll of northern Ireland says.... No [/quote] well then, they should all LEAVE NORTHERN IRELAND. i'm suggesting anyone who wants to be english in Northern Ireland simply MOVE TO ENGLAND. how bout having a poll of ALL of Ireland and see what they say about it? should never have been split up to begin with, should never have been taken over to begin with. pAx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 From what I remember this is how it goes:[list] [*]Electorate vote for their Member of Parliament. there are 659 seats in the House of Commons. [*]Party with the biggest number of seats gets to rule the country (if they have no overall majority they can attempt a coalition). [*]Head of the party becomes PM. [*]PM picks cabinet. [/list] The PM is not directly electable and as such is no different than the cabinet when it comes to eligibility. Catholics may become MP's therefore catholics may become PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 23 2004, 07:38 PM'] Ireland long a province be, A NATION ONCE AGAIN! A NATION ONCE AGAIN! A NATION ONCE AGAIN! get out of Northern Ireland, all the Protestants can go with you back to England! LEAVE IRELAND ALONE. arg [/quote] Ethnic cleansing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Actually in Canada due to the Prot/Cath mix we were the first Britsh colony to allow CAtholics and Protestants equal powers in Parliament and to say taht Britain did not get along well with Catholics is not completley true for example in Canada they got along VERY well with Catholics (the government...citizens not as much). You still had things like the Riel rebellion and such but it was not at the same level as in other places and happened because of different issues (aboriginal rights). Anyway though from the Governement side any offical maybe CAtholic except for the Head of the Anglican Church (Head of State) and their spouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='RandomProddy' date='Jun 23 2004, 04:45 PM'] Ethnic cleansing? [/quote] no. simply: those who don't want to be Irish should leave Ireland. If they want to be English they should move to England. If they had a poll of ALL of Ireland (because it shouldn't be split anyway) i betchya it'd be overwhelmingly in favor of Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland reuniting to be one country the way it should be. England has no business holding Northern Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 23 2004, 08:07 PM'] no. simply: those who don't want to be Irish should leave Ireland. If they want to be English they should move to England. If they had a poll of ALL of Ireland (because it shouldn't be split anyway) i betchya it'd be overwhelmingly in favor of Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland reuniting to be one country the way it should be. England has no business holding Northern Ireland. [/quote] I totally agree. I'm only Irish by blood... With people like Ian Paisley in northern Ireland spreading lies about Catholics, it's doubtful that those in the North have half a clue. His site: www.ianpaisley.org <- methods of hate My site: www.ianpaisley.net <- method for correction God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 If everyone in the North wants to be English, then let them be English? Who is to say they should give up their land based on the fact that they'd rather be governed by another state? If you think that Northern Irish people should get out for not wanting to be Irish, then I think that you should also be against Athanasia for not wanting to be loyal to wherever you build it. A hunk of land is not important - its the people and the faith that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jun 24 2004, 01:27 AM'] With people like Ian Paisley in northern Ireland spreading lies about Catholics, it's doubtful that those in the North have half a clue. [/quote] When you have the IRA bombing libraries, childrens hospitals, schools and inner cities and claiming to do it for the united socialist catholic Ireland, I'm sure they will have a very real view of what's going on.. ..but not the actual facts about Christianity. The truth is, Christ does not condone bombing civilians and certainly not in his name, whether you are protestant or catholic. Edited June 23, 2004 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 (edited) [quote name='RandomProddy' date='Jun 23 2004, 08:54 PM'] When you have the IRA bombing libraries, childrens hospitals, schools and inner cities and claiming to do it for the united socialist catholic Ireland, I'm sure they will have a very real view of what's going on.. ..but not the actual facts about Christianity. The truth is, Christ does not condone bombing civilians and certainly not in his name, whether you are protestant or catholic. [/quote] The Catholic Church has nothing to do with the IRA. The IRA are bad Catholics. The IRA is no excuse for what Ian says about the Catholic Faith. Have you seen some of the falsehoods he writes and posts on his website? Here is a small list....[list] [*]Purgatory Pickpocket [*]The Demon of Celibacy [*]Worship Of Saints And Angels [*]Image Worship [*]Rome's Perversion of the Ten Commandments [*]The Jesuit Oath Exposed [*]The Development of Rome - Antichrist Comes To Light [*]The Worship of Saints [*]The Scarlet Woman or The Revival of Romanism [*]Papal Supremacy - A Refuge Of Lies [*]Rome's Arrogant (Im)Morality [*]Let The True Church Of The Papacy Stand Up! [*]The Perils of Popery [/list] His site is a list of lies. If I had the money, I would sue for defimation of character. The lies are blatent and cause hate. His is to Catholics what Hitler was to Jews. God Bless, ironmonk Edited June 24, 2004 by ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jun 24 2004, 03:09 AM'] His is to Catholics what Hitler was to Jews. [/quote] I'm not sure if you meant it, but that was exceptionally accurate statement for this one (though I don't share your total hatred of what Paisley stands for but I agree he is a little messed up). Hitler, claiming to be Catholic, allowing hatred in much the same way the IRA leadership do so and claim catholicism But what you miss is: it's these actions that (some) people deduce what Catholics stand for. Example 1: Kid walks down road, sees hospital blow up. Watches the IRA claim it was them and they claim it was good. Notes they are Catholic, deduces all Catholics are terrorists and want all Protestants dead. Example 2: Kid walks down road, sees granny get killed by thugs on the street. Notes the thugs are Protestant, takes one look at Paisley, deduces all Protestants are terrorists and want all catholics dead. What needs to happen is for everyone who claims to be christian to stand up and shout "STOP! THIS IS WRONG!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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