Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jan 10 2005, 11:52 PM'] Troublesome Thomists. I do hate them so! They should all be stamped with a "phishy" label. [/quote] Thomists most certainly should not be classified as "phishy," but it should never be forgotten that Thomism is not a synonym for Catholicism. There are Catholics who are not now, who never have been, and who never will be Thomists.
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Whatda I gotta do? I already wanna be a Thomist.
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:59 AM'] but it should never be forgotten that Thomism is not a synonym for Catholicism. [/quote] :spit: [quote]There are Catholics who are not now, who never have been, and who never will be Thomists. [/quote] Poor heretics.
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jan 11 2005, 12:05 AM'][quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:59 AM'][. . .] but it should never be forgotten that Thomism is not a synonym for Catholicism.[/quote] :spit: [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:59 AM']There are Catholics who are not now, who never have been, and who never will be Thomists.[/quote] Poor heretics. [/quote] Yes, poor St. Irenaeus, poor St. Athanasius the Great, poor St. Gregory of Nyssa, poor St. Basil the Great, poor St. Gregory Nazianzus, poor St. John Chrysostom, poor St. Cyril of Alexandria, poor St. Maximos the Confessor, poor St. John Damascene, heretics all. :rotfl:
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Hey, wouldn't Aquinas even have been a heretic (materially) anyways?
spathariossa Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:14 AM'] :spit: Poor heretics. [/QUOTE] Yes, poor St. Irenaeus, poor St. Athanasius the Great, poor St. Gregory of Nyssa, poor St. Basil the Great, poor St. Gregory Nazianzus, poor St. John Chrysostom, poor St. Cyril of Alexandria, poor St. Maximos the Confessor, poor St. John Damascene, heretics all. :rotfl: [/quote] O holy bishop Athanasius, you became a stronghold of Orthodoxy. Opposing the heretical opinions of Arias, you explained and taught that the son is equal, in nature, with the father. Holy bishop Athanasius intercede with Christ God, that he may grant us abundant mercy.
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Thomism rocks. I respect the Catholc East tho'.
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Heretics all, whoever you may be, In Tarbes or Nimes, or over the sea, You never shall have good words from me. Caritas non conturbat me. But Catholic men that live upon wine Are deep in the water, and frank, and fine; Wherever I travel I find it so, Benedicamus Domino. On childing women that are forelorn, And men that sweat in nothing but scorn: That is on all that ever were born, Miserere Domine. To my poor self on my deathbed, And all my dear companions dead, Because of the love that I bore them, Dona Eis Requiem
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Sorry apoth. The last words of your post reminded me of the poem by Belloc.
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jan 11 2005, 12:19 AM'] Sorry apoth. The last words of your post reminded me of the poem by Belloc. [/quote] Quoting Belloc is fine with me.
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 I have nothing against the East. I just think they are theologically inept, but not heretics. Just kidding.
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jan 11 2005, 12:25 AM'] I have nothing against the East. I just think they are theologically inept, but not heretics. Just kidding. [/quote] That comment is based upon the ignorance of the West. Just kidding.
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 I would like to understand Eastern Catholic theology and spirituality better, but it all seems so alien, it took me a month to decide words like theosis and divinization weren't blasphemous.
spathariossa Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='hyperdulia again' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:28 AM'] I would like to understand Eastern Catholic theology and spirituality better, but it all seems so alien, it took me a month to decide words like theosis and divinization weren't blasphemous. [/quote] I know more about the East due to my stint in Orthodoxy. I like the spiritual aspects of it. However, the Western church is fine by me too.
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 I'm trying to convince my friend to go to the East. I just wouldn't go there myself, I love Thomism too much.
Guest Aluigi Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 aren't you not supposed to just randomly go to the east? i thought there had to be some sort of reason and that it's strongly discouraged... (on both sides, going to the west randomly is also discouraged i think) we're all one big happy family, we're just supposedta stay connected to our immediate family or something. that'd be like leaving your parents to live with your uncle and aunt... if there was a leigitimate reason it's good but otherwise it's just kinda offensive to your parents. i donno... i just heard that somewhere back when I had decided I was going to get married, move my family to the Maronite rite, and become a priest. lol, that was like 25 carreers and crazy schemes ago though.
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='Aluigi' date='Jan 11 2005, 03:41 AM'] aren't you not supposed to just randomly go to the east? i thought there had to be some sort of reason and that it's strongly discouraged... (on both sides, going to the west randomly is also discouraged i think) we're all one big happy family, we're just supposedta stay connected to our immediate family or something. that'd be like leaving your parents to live with your uncle and aunt... if there was a leigitimate reason it's good but otherwise it's just kinda offensive to your parents. i donno... i just heard that somewhere back when I had decided I was going to get married, move my family to the Maronite rite, and become a priest. lol, that was like 25 carreers and crazy schemes ago though. [/quote] It requires episcopal permission to canonically switch rites.
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 I must go. I need to get back to work on the paper I'm writing on Americanism. Good night all!
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 1. One cannot switch to become a priest. 2. I don't see a need in Rite switching. One can participate fully in all of Holy Church's Rites.
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