Donna Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) I agree. I don't like a lot of worship music, but then again I can't stand a lot of secular songs either. Usually because the lyrics are unreal or stupid, or it's too sentimental or predictable. We should write our own stuff, no doubt we'd come up w/ equally sugary stuff. Sigh. It's hard to be cool, or beautiful. But: why not just listen to Gregorian Chant in the backround, for 10 minutes a week? See where that leads one. Edited April 10, 2005 by Donna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 [i]Sorry ta be berratin' Should a future saint Be imitatin' Judas Priest Verbatim:[/i] [b]Hell bent Hell bent For Leather![/b] DAiRW di di DAiRW di di DAiRW di di DAiRW di di DAiRW [b]Hell bent Hell bent For Leather![/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 what don't you like about worship music?? its expressing your love for God? This is a relationship, not actions done out of duty. Jesus said love God with your WHOLE heart, WHOLE MIND, and your WHOLE body. Worship, prayer and reading the scripture are three vital points that cannot be over looked. This is how we get close to God. Writings love song and getting excited over secular "love" cuz it reminds you of someone you love but pure songs expressing love for God? You don't like worship??? theres tons of fantastic worship music. Secular jams aren't of God, if its not of God its of someoneelse period. No matter how many buts you lay down. Two kinds of wisdom, check James. You can't serve two masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefromcm Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Check out [url="http://kingcong.uwaterloo.ca/~dwang/revlar.mp3"]http://kingcong.uwaterloo.ca/~dwang/revlar.mp3[/url] This is Critical Mass, my band. I'd be curious, for those who don't like worship music, whether you think this would change your mind... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) [quote]Secular jams aren't of God,[/quote] Secularism is a modernist error in this world. However, secular music can't be bad because it fails to mention God... or you'd have to consider techno (just beats) as being against God, and folk musics about the land to be against God... which isn't the case at all. That song was really good, by the way. Not my style really, but my opinion holds true, Cathlic music is always good (mind you if effort was put in). I don't know of any Catholic worship music... like PRaise and Worship, which is why I keep that opinion. God bless, Mikey Edited April 10, 2005 by MichaelFilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoxide Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 Jungle music comes from the jungles. It has no real lyrics and is generally animal garbage. Just me though. I just realized that the song 'Burn in Hell' by Judas priest is not only by Tim Owens (not a flaming homosexual) but seems to be anti-suicide. It tells a story about a guy who off'd himself and how he is burning for it. Anyway. Kind of direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Post a few song lyrics for Judas Priest... any 3.. don't pick and chose. God bless, Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoxide Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 I pretty much took these at random, I do not even know what some sound like. Song one: Blood Red Skies (Tipton, Halford, Downing) 7.49 from "Ram it Down" As the sun goes down, I move around Keeping to the shadows Life, hangs by a thread And I've heard it said, that I'll not see tomorrow If that's my destiny, it'll have to be So I'll face the future Running out of time I'm on the line But I'll go down fighting Felt the hand of justice Telling wrong from right Threw me out upon the street in the middle of the night Cybernetic heartbeat Digital precise Pneumatic fingers nearly had me in their vice Not begging you I'm telling you You won't break me You won't make me You won't take me, Under blood red skies You won't break me You won't take me I'll fight you under Blood red skies Through a shattered city, watched by laser eyes Overhead the night squad glides The decaying paradise Automatic sniper With computer sights Scans the bleak horizon for its victim of the night Not begging you I'm telling you You won't break me You won't make me You won't take me, Under blood red skies You won't break me You won't take me I'll fight you under Blood red skies As the end is drawing near Standing proud, I won't give in to fear As I die a legend will be born I will stand, I will fight You'll never take me alive I'll stand my ground I won't go down You won't break me You won't make me You won't take me, Under blood red skies You won't break me You won't take me I'll fight you under Blood red skies You'll never take me alive I'm telling you Hands of justice I will stand, I will fight As the sun goes down I won't give in to fear Song Two: The Rage (Tipton, Halford, Downing) 4.42 from "British Steel" From a fireball we came crossed sea and mountain We were drinking beauty with our eyes We were given all to make our own Let us be left alone Laid the tasks and paid the price Everything survives Crushed and bolted all the grain At every wind what a stake we're in Is pain better than the grave When we talk without amend We see red and then Deep inside our blood begins to boil Like a tiger in the cage We begin to shake with rage song 3: Victim Of Changes (Tipton, Halford, Downing) 7.22 from "Unleashed in the East" Whiskey woman don't you know that you are drivin' me insane The liquor you give stems your will to live and gets right to my brain Don't you know you're driving me insane You're tryin' to find your way through life You're tryin' to get some new direction Another woman got her man She won't find no new connection Takes another drink or two, things look better when she's through Takes another look around, you're not goin' anywhere You've realised you're gettin' old and no one seems to care You're tryin' to find your way again You're tryin' to find some new... Another woman's got her man But she won't find a new... Takes another drink or two, things look better when she's through You 'bin foolin' with some hot guy I want to know why is it why Get up get out you know you really blew it I've had enough, I've had enough, good God pluck me Once she was wonderful Once she was fine Once she was beautiful Once she was mine...she was mine Now change has come over her body, she doesn't see me anymore Now change has come over her body, she doesn't see me anymore Changes, changes, changes, changes Victim of changes Interesting, I will have to listen to these songs, strikes me as a youth I enjoyed 'The Rage' we will have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photosynthesis Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) I don't like songs that are obviously anti-Christian. At the same time, I respect artists' need for self-expression, even if they're not Christian. but a lot of Christian music is, forgive me if I offend anyone, carp. it makes me want to puke sometimes it's so bad. I like a few Christian artists and songs, but generally I tend to dislike the syrupy, mawkish, overproduced, repetitive, predictable style that most Christian musicians tend to follow. I'm well aware that many great composers were Christian... Like Bach, Mozart, etc... I'm talking about Michael W. Smith and Point of Grace and all of those types. Edited April 12, 2005 by photosynthesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefromcm Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Has anyone checked out the link I posted? [url="http://kingcong.uwaterloo.ca/~dwang/revlar.mp3"]http://kingcong.uwaterloo.ca/~dwang/revlar.mp3[/url] It's pretty highly compressed but listenable This is an example of some of the stuff that is coming out of the Catholic music industry... I'd really be interested to hear your thoughts. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoxide Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Nice, i would buy it, got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 The music by Judas priest isn't immoral... it lacks God however. It's a sign of life without Him... which is weird. The music SEEMS fine... but someone more well versed with them maybe able to see something I missed. God bless Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoxide Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 The Burn in Hell song struck me as straight out bible in a sense. Judas Priest, "Burn in Hell" Written by the homo singer and the straight bassist. Speak to me Of those days I won't forget Your worst dreams Has just returned - to pay you back I'm still laughing There's not much else I can do But one's thing's certain I'm coming back for you Have you got a gun? Do you remember well Who you used it on It's time to burn in Hell Say my name I can hear you whisper Not to blame? You are going to blister Scream in the night I've been counting the days It's so amusing To see you again Have you got a gun? Do you remember well Who d'ya use it on You're going to burn in Hell Which seems horribly harsh, but isn't that what happens when you die in a state of mortal sin such as that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Some thoughts... Music lyrics, like poetry, are often highly stylized and not really [i]about[/i] what the words overtly seem to say. This is especially true in the industrial music genre. Don't judge things too harshly when you're not in the target audience. Music does indeed affect a primal part of your brain, but that part of your brain doesn't have language. The lyrics don't affect you there. Would it be harmful to enjoy music with "bad" lyrics in a language you didn't understand? Anyway, I wouldn't want to dismiss outright any form of art. People can be moved in surprising ways by powerful music, even in ways that the artist himself never intended. Once "bad" music is considered wrong, then what? Only books where no one does anything evil? Only movies with no conflict? Any honest artist is seeking the truth. There is only one truth. Just avoid listening to talentless hacks. OTOH, I try to avoid music (and other art) done by people who eventually killed themselves. I worry about picking up that mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefromcm Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 If you liked the Critical Mass cut, you can check out the CD "Grasping for Hope in the Darkness" from www.CatholicRock.com Thanks! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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