GAYS TO PROTEST AT MASS

[bookwyrm]

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners
now and at the hour of our death,
Amen

[kateri05]

hey kizlar, what parish are you in? i'm in LA Archdiocese too... and Cardinal Mahoney makes me sad sometimes (heck a LOT of the time ). have you ever been to Congress? its a liturgical nightmare!

[KizlarAgha]

[quote name='kateri05' date='May 13 2005, 01:33 AM'] hey kizlar, what parish are you in? i'm in LA Archdiocese too... and Cardinal Mahoney makes me sad sometimes (heck a LOT of the time ). have you ever been to Congress? its a liturgical nightmare! [/quote]
I'm in a couple of places depending on the day of the week - I travel around like a vagrant. But I'm in Thousand Oaks sometimes and Santa Barbara other times.

[kateri05]

ahhh ok north north. well im the OLA region, st. augustines (im YM here), you should stop on by we like to continue gathering people around the altar, pour the precious Blood after consecration and have EMoHCs give out "blessings" oh and cut out parts of the readings when mass is too long with other things like baptisms,etc. oh and hand out birthday cupcakes to celebrate the LIFETEEN anniversary at our church. lol i could go one...

hows your parish? sorry to hijack the thread!

[ironmonk]

[quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 13 2005, 12:25 AM'] I confronted him about it and told him what he was doing was against the GIRM and he said, "Yes, it is." [/quote]
Have you taken it to your Bishop?

I like to email the Bishop, copy the Vatican with the email, and call the Bishop on things like that... and pray.

God Bless,
ironmonk

[Didacus]

I still say, choose your battles, pick your fights. For them to be met with any form of violence or violent threat is precisely their goals.

Look at little further, see the bigger picture. This fight will not be won by any single confrontation.

Yes, I am agnry. Yes I am apauled. Yes, it is wrong of them to come to church and force themselves upon our beliefs.

I wonder if the law might give some relief. What if the church was to press trespassing charges on these people? After all, i bet the vast majority of them are not baptised, and obviously seek obstruction of church business. I am certain a clever lawyer could come up with something.


No greater geniuses than the geniuses who fool themselves.

[Melchisedec]

Gays wanting to be accepted by the catholic church is a foolish notion. Why do you want to be with those who see you as an abomination.

[cmotherofpirl]

There are many Catholics who happen to have same sex attraction.
Their orientation is not a sin its a disorder.
Any sex outside of marriage is the sin.

Love the sinner, hate the sin, no matter what orientation they have.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Melchisedec' date='May 13 2005, 10:28 AM'] Gays wanting to be accepted by the catholic church is a foolish notion. Why do you want to be with those who see you as an abomination. [/quote]
GOSH

[SarahB]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='May 13 2005, 11:22 AM'] GOSH [/quote]
My thoughts exactly.

[return2truth]

Most homosexuals think that they were born the way that they are. Those of them who want to be Catholic cannot conceive of how the Church could possibly be so biggoted against them for something that is beyond their power to control. In their minds, they are being unjustly excluded because of who they are. In truth, they are being excluded because of what they do.

If homosexuals really wants to remain in full communion with the Catholic Church, they should honestly examine their lives and try to identify what aspects of their lives led them to be attracted to the same sex. They should try to recognize that their yearning for the same sex is not born out of a biological compulsion, but an emotional or psychological deficit that developed early in their lives. They should seek treatment to help abate this emotional disorder. They should attempt to appreciate why God has decreed it to be immoral, for in the practice of it, the full sacredness of the sacrament of Mariage can never be celebrated, only mocked.

I shall not judge homosexuals. Instead, I will pray that someday the longing they feel in their hearts will be replaced by the light of God and that they will learn how to put Him first before themselves.

[KizlarAgha]

[quote name='return2truth' date='May 13 2005, 11:14 AM'] Most homosexuals think that they were born the way that they are. Those of them who want to be Catholic cannot conceive of how the Church could possibly be so biggoted against them for something that is beyond their power to control. In their minds, they are being unjustly excluded because of who they are. In truth, they are being excluded because of what they do.

If homosexuals really wants to remain in full communion with the Catholic Church, they should honestly examine their lives and try to identify what aspects of their lives led them to be attracted to the same sex. They should try to recognize that their yearning for the same sex is not born out of a biological compulsion, but an emotional or psychological deficit that developed early in their lives. They should seek treatment to help abate this emotional disorder. They should attempt to appreciate why God has decreed it to be immoral, for in the practice of it, the full sacredness of the sacrament of Mariage can never be celebrated, only mocked.

I shall not judge homosexuals. Instead, I will pray that someday the longing they feel in their hearts will be replaced by the light of God and that they will learn how to put Him first before themselves. [/quote]
Most evidence these days leads scientists to believe that homosexuals are indeed born homosexuals. At the very least, many studies have shown significant biological differences between heterosexual men and homosexual men. The fact that the Church calls them to deny this aspect of themselves isn't unfair or unjust, but I think that curbing an aspect of themselves is exactly what the Church calls them to do.