Is It Just Me?

[Aloysius]

it looked to me like (especially when that electric guitar was playing in the background) he was doing all he could not to cringe on international TV.

but I thought he handled it very well. he continued with a very solemn and reverent posture appropriate for the events of the Mass and anyone that was paying attention could see right away from the dichotamy his reverence created to the music that the music was inappropriate for that even.

anyone else burst out laughing when they realized the crazy perky song was the Gloria in Latin? it was cool how they kept stopping it and chanting certain phrases though... at least that's a start

[Jaime]

[quote name='Cam42' date='Aug 21 2005, 06:18 PM']He didn't look very happy did he?
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And yet...

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 21 2005, 06:16 PM']not the type of music they played on them.  there is a big difference between sacred organ music and secular circus organ music.

invent an electric guitar music style that is distinct from the secular stuff, make it sacred, solemn, and reverent,... not just in lyrics... and I'd give you a medal.
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[Fides_et_Ratio]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Aug 21 2005, 09:11 PM']And yet...
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As I said... a confusing struggle...

The Liturgy... an active youth? ...Active youth... the Liturgy?

[son_of_angels]

I thought, overall, this WYD was far more Eucharistic, far more prayer-centered, than those before. I mean, think about it, they actually chanted the Tantum Ergo at the Vigil (which I thought was awesome).

The only criticism I have is that, coming from a fairly charismatic tradition, the modern songs were sung so rigidly that there really wouldn't have been a difference if they had sung a Mozart setting of the Mass. You don't sing Latin chant as if it were German folk, nor contemporary songs as though they were motets. I think it was the German coming through.

[Cam42]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Aug 21 2005, 09:11 PM']And yet...
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Katie Couric didn't make the trip.

[dspen2005]

the next wyd should be better. archbishop marini (sp??) --the organizer of papal masses -- will be gone... B16 had to keep him because marini was so aware of how wyd goes - imagine if he had release marini before wyd, what kind of mess he would have on his hands..... so just hold on a little bit longer, and 2008 should be better.

[Jaime]

So now the tally is

hot stuff
Nicole

And two popes

Two

popes

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Aug 21 2005, 09:06 PM']So now the tally is

hot stuff
Nicole

And two popes

Two

popes
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i'm confused

[Jaime]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Aug 21 2005, 09:09 PM']i'm confused
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LOL

Its in reference to Camster's and my "liturgical guitar" debate!!

[ryanmeyersmusic]

if it were a big deal to the pope, i feel certain that he would have made changes beforehand.

[Luthien]

[quote name='ryanmeyersmusic' date='Aug 21 2005, 10:00 PM']if it were a big deal to the pope, i feel certain that he would have made changes beforehand.
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I'm sure the plans were already set in stone before he became pope.

[SarahB]

Yeah, I mean, they start planning the next WYD as soon as the next city to host the event is named, right? So, that was 3 years ago. Had he tried to change anything, there would have been chaos.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Noel's angel' date='Aug 21 2005, 04:04 PM']maybe they will start having party games like 'pass the Eucharist' and 'Pin the Tail on the Pope'
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That is pretty low

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Luthien' date='Aug 21 2005, 10:03 PM']I'm sure the plans were already set in stone before he became pope.
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Right, i'm sure the head of the church is helpless to do anything about one Mass

[Luthien]

[quote name='ardillacid' date='Aug 21 2005, 10:11 PM']Right, i'm sure the head of the church is helpless to do anything about one Mass
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Its more than that though, like SarahB said, it probably would have been chaos to change gears in 5 months.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Luthien' date='Aug 21 2005, 10:13 PM']Its more than that though, like SarahB said, it probably would have been chaos to change gears in 5 months.
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Really?

Five months to switch from electric guitar to organ is too much?

[SarahB]

We'll just have to wait and see what the next one is like. If it's more of the same, well.....I don't know. But hopefully it will be better. Pope Benedict couldn't have been happy about a lot of things when you see what he has to say about the Liturgy. Hopefully WYD 2008 will reflect his feelings.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='ardillacid' date='Aug 21 2005, 10:11 PM']Right, i'm sure the head of the church is helpless to do anything about one Mass
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The Pope is one of the busiest people in the world and to be frank there are a lot of politics and things involved in such things. There are lots and lots of people involved in setting up world youth day and the Pope is in no position to micro-manage everything.
The Pope's views on the Liturgy are clear enough in his writings and statements. Obviously if he could have dictated how it would be he would have.

[blueufo7]

I missed this WYD, but I was at the Toronto 2002 one... and I really liked the music- especially the theme song!! (And i'm def not a folksie music person)

With 800,000+ people at WYD, they could have played whatever music (Gregorian to heavy metal) and I don't think a crowd that huge could have focused on what was going on. I remember at Toronto seeing people eating or making out during some of the most solemn parts of the Mass... they were so out of it!

But then again, I saw JPII's funeral on TV and for the largest crowd in human history, the group seemed somewhat focused... not too chatty. So maybe a more solemn Mass could get WYD pilgrims to pay attention. I wonder what it was like inside the crowd at the funeral Mass... were people as out of it at the funeral as they were for WYD 2002?

Edited August 22, 2005 by blueufo7