women and the workplace

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='photosynthesis' date='Sep 21 2005, 07:54 PM']People also are afraid of getting their newest coolest stuff dirty

It's so sad how much people obsess over labels and brands.  After Mass we usually spend some time in fellowship, just hanging out...and usually I bring the snacks and drinks.  There is this one person who is always complaining that I always get store-brand food, saying that it doesn't taste as good.  Store brand food tastes just fine!!!  she is lucky that I bring food at all  People are way too attached to brands, and it is disgusting how companies are using such deceptive adversiting (known as "branding") on those who are very young.  When I have kids, they will not watch TV, at least not in my house.
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Since she doesn't like store brands tell her she brings the food the next time. :

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='StatingTheObvious' date='Sep 21 2005, 09:57 AM']Then again, families could try to live within their means and can do it on 1 income.  I do, my parents did, most of my fellow employees do.  The difference is telling the difference between luxuries and necessities.

For example:
- 1 TV is plenty and they still broadcast to you for free.
- A movie is just as good 2 years later when they broadcast it.
- A VCR is a luxury and you can buy a working one at a garage sale for $10 and pay .50 for movies.
- A car will last 15 years or more if you take care of it.
- At legal speed limit, my 10 year old Cavalier will get me there at the same time as your $35,000 Nissan.
- Electric windows and door locks are luxuries and my windows and locks work just fine.
- $12 Jeans at wal-mart last just as long as $35 Levis.  I don't buy socks at Burdines.
- I can eat my sandwich, cold leftovers, etc., out of my 'brown bag' faster than you can go to McDonalds and get a Big Mac.
- Water quenches thirst better than soda and I can afford lemon juice or lime juice if I want to be 'wild'.
- I don't have much cash, or make a ton, but I've got excellent credit for emergencies because I pay for neccessities as I go.
- Vacation is an escape from work, not from your home.  I don't think many of us have houses in Hell that we have to escape from.
- Pay phones are still abundant and only cost 25cents for local.  Society has survived for eons without instant communication to ask which flavor of $3 coffe to bring home from StarBucks.
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If you snide little comment was directed at me, (and I'm guessing it was, since you quoted me)...

--We have only one tv (the one we bought in 1991)-- we have basic cable only because without it we get snow.

--I haven't seen a movie in years (that wasn't a children's movie played for free in the summer)

-- I have the same VCR that we bought at Sam's right after we got married in 1991.

--I have the same car that we bought when our family outgrew our previous one. (sometimes you have to expand-- it's a need.)

--I don't know what to make of your Cavalier/Nissan comment.

--ditto the features. Our car came off the lot, during a winter storm, at the end of the month and year. The stuff it had was the stuff it had.

--clothes are clothes... I haven't bought myself any new clothes in quite some time. I don't even know what "Burdines" is

--our one and only credit card has never carried a balance-- in 14 years

--I'm skipping a bunch because they get tedious and silly

--Vacation an ascape from work not home...? Hm... well, my home is my work... Our vacation is getting into the afformentioned van and driving to see family and friends. Anyone who has travelled across the country with children in the car will tell you, it's not a luxury vacation.

--I don't have a cell phone either...

I KNOW the difference between a need and a want.

My point was that trying to get a house in this area is very hard... The real estate market here is crazy. It is difficult to get a home with one income. If we did not already live here, we probably could not afford to live here. The market is driven up by two income families who can pay more for their homes. If we were to downsize our home, we would get a smaller house, but not a smaller mortgage.

If your comments were directed at me, you're barking up the wrong tree...

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Sep 22 2005, 09:22 AM']If you snide little comment was directed at me, (and I'm guessing it was, since you quoted me)...

--We have only one tv (the one we bought in 1991)-- we have basic cable only because without it we get snow.

--I haven't seen a movie in years (that wasn't a children's movie played for free in the summer)

-- I have the same VCR that we bought at Sam's right after we got married in 1991.

--I have the same car that we bought when our family outgrew our previous one. (sometimes you have to expand-- it's a need.)

--I don't know what to make of your Cavalier/Nissan comment.

--ditto the features. Our car came off the lot, during a winter storm, at the end of the month and year. The stuff it had was the stuff it had.

--clothes are clothes... I haven't bought myself any new clothes in quite some time. I don't even know what "Burdines" is

--our one and only credit card has never carried a balance-- in 14 years

--I'm skipping a bunch because they get tedious and silly

--Vacation an ascape from work not home...? Hm... well, my home is my work... Our vacation is getting into the afformentioned van and driving to see family and friends. Anyone who has travelled across the country with children in the car will tell you, it's not a luxury vacation.

--I don't have a cell phone either...

I KNOW the difference between a need and a want.

My point was that trying to get a house in this area is very hard... The real estate market here is crazy. It is difficult to get a home with one income. If we did not already live here, we probably could not afford to live here. The  market is driven up by two income families who can pay more for their homes. If we were to downsize our home, we would get a smaller house, but not a smaller mortgage.

If your comments were directed at me, you're barking up the wrong tree...
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I don't think it was directed at you in particular, but it was a good answer none the less.

[homeschoolmom]

[Sojourner]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Sep 22 2005, 08:22 AM']--Vacation an ascape from work not home...? Hm... well, my home is my work... Our vacation is getting into the afformentioned van and driving to see family and friends. Anyone who has travelled across the country with children in the car will tell you, it's not a luxury vacation.
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I'm glad you took vacation and stopped to see me!

And you're more than right that travelling wtih kids in the car is no luxury vacation, although it has moments when it can be fun. My vacation this year waswith a family I'm friends with, and we took a road trip to sunny North Carolina. Their two boys are 8 and 9, which is actually not too bad to travel with ... but they do have very small bladders.

Once we got them some Calvin & Hobbes books to read, though, we only heard the occasional "Are we there yet" out of them. They were great.

[Carrie]

[quote name='Sojourner' date='Sep 22 2005, 11:53 AM']I'm glad you took vacation and stopped to see me!

And you're more than right that travelling wtih kids in the car is no luxury vacation, although it has moments when it can be fun. My vacation this year waswith a family I'm friends with, and we took a road trip to sunny North Carolina. Their two boys are 8 and 9, which is actually not too bad to travel with ... but they do have very small bladders. 

Once we got them some Calvin & Hobbes books to read, though, we only heard the occasional "Are we there yet" out of them. They were great.
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Sounds like traveling with me.

I also have a very small bladder, am incredibly annoying about when we're getting there, and am amused by cartoon books.


Hmm, this may explain why its been a few years since I've been invited on a family vacation.

[Aloysius]

real estate is a pet peave of mine... because the entire market is designed around a society-of-rentership mentality

(as opposed to a society-of-ownership that I'd like)

it's like... buy it and "own" it and live in it all the while paying payments on it until you finally decide to move...

so did you really own it? sigh... it doesn't seem like it to me!

the prices are so freaking high that they're not even EXPECTED to ever be paid off, you're expected to move long before you do!

and they say we can own private property in America
(not that most places aren't ten times worse and more blatent about not letting you own private property)

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Sep 24 2005, 03:22 PM']real estate is a pet peave of mine... because the entire market is designed around a society-of-rentership mentality

(as opposed to a society-of-ownership that I'd like)

it's like... buy it and "own" it and live in it all the while paying payments on it until you finally decide to move...

so did you really own it?  sigh... it doesn't seem like it to me! 

the prices are so freaking high that they're not even EXPECTED to ever be paid off, you're expected to move long before you do! 

and they say we can own private property in America
(not that most places aren't ten times worse and more blatent about not letting you own private property)
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Yes, yes, yes. HSdad and I are working so that one day we will OWN our house. We are a couple years in to a 15 year mortgage. But you're right, in that it's expected that you will never fully pay for it.... On the other hand, owning is better than renting in that you have invested in (hopefully) a property that will increase in value so that when you sell, you get what you put in and a little more.