I've got a not-a-date-yet!

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[quote name='Proud2BCatholic139' date='Nov 14 2005, 12:29 PM']No that was the opposite for me.   
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you must have gotten better boyfriends than I got then.

[Proud2BCatholic139]

I only had one. But, yeah, he really did like me.

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[quote name='Proud2BCatholic139' date='Nov 14 2005, 12:33 PM']I only had one. But, yeah, he really did like me.
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Mine were all Jewish tenors.

I wonder if Jesus was a tenor...

usually when someone initiates a DTR it's because they want the relationship to go forward or backward, so it really goes either way. I suspect all of the Jewish tenor boyfriends I had were intimidated by me.

[Proud2BCatholic139]

Well, women are great creatures of God. We should be feared. But in a good way.

Well, I don't know about my ex, but it is all a mystery. He definately wanted to move forward all right.

[jiyoung]

Yeah, those seem a lot like dates. Be careful. And tell her how you feel, because otherwise she'll get confused. I had the same kind of stuff going on with my prom date, except he was the manipulative type who would call me all the time and hold my hand and put his arm around me, and other boyfriend-y sorts of things. So yeah, be careful, and be clear. And good luck.

[theculturewarrior]

I'm done thinking! It's a date! I'm going to tell her so, God willing.

I admit it, I'm infatuated with her. Right now I'm at home listening to all the depressing songs I used to listen to in high school, just to prepare myself for disappointment and to remember what "aftermath" is like.

I went home sick because I thought I was getting manic. No such luck!

"You make me manic" is one of the most romantic things I can think of telling a woman. I'll have to bite my tongue.

[scardella]

It's just another manic monday!

I had to!

[Proud2BCatholic139]

[quote name='scardella' date='Nov 14 2005, 05:50 PM']It's just another manic monday!

I had to! 
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"wish it was Sunday!"

Haha!

Question, anyone want to date me?

[jasJis]

TCW,
Okay. I hav3 4 sisters and 2 teen daughters. I've discussed girl/guy stuff with all of them and their friends. They came/come to me and discussed 'What does it mean when a guy...." and they tell me what they thought. My wife says I'm very good at understanding women. She says I'm creepy that way.

DON'T buy her a rose. It's moving too fast for you and you will have to draw back and she will get upset at your 'mixed' messages. Relax, and be steady and patient. Girls aren't as patient, but are steadier in the long run. Trust that.

I would say the friends with 'benefits' thing is more innocent than you think. It's probably means that you can be friends and talk more openly or be more honest without judging. To a great woman, that's very, very, important. You don't really think she's completely misread you, do you? And you can't be that far off that she's much more sexually agressive than you thought? People don't read each other that far off in real life, only on TV soap operas.

And get off the depressing music. Get your mental picture that it's going to be a fun, relaxed, casual evening. Don't put pressures of failure or success on it. Your 1st goal is to relax so you can subconsiously be yourself. Your 2nd goal is to relax and just enjoy her being herself so you can get to know her.

(Do I sound like Hitch?)

[theculturewarrior]

[quote name='Proud2BCatholic139' date='Nov 14 2005, 06:21 PM']"wish it was Sunday!"

Haha!

Question, anyone want to date me?
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Sorry, I can only handle one manic episode at a time.

(That's so romantic. )

[Proud2BCatholic139]

That's ok, I understand.

[theculturewarrior]

[quote name='jasJis' date='Nov 14 2005, 06:28 PM']TCW,
Okay.  I hav3 4 sisters and 2 teen daughters.  I've discussed girl/guy stuff with all of them and their friends.  They came/come to me and discussed 'What does it mean when a guy...." and they tell me what they thought.  My wife says I'm very good at understanding women.  She says I'm creepy that way.

DON'T buy her a rose.  It's moving too fast for you and you will have to draw back and she will get upset at your 'mixed' messages.  Relax, and be steady and patient.  Girls aren't as patient, but are steadier in the long run.  Trust that.

I would say the friends with 'benefits' thing is more innocent than you think.  It's probably means that you can be friends and talk more openly or be more honest without judging.  To a great woman, that's very, very, important.  You don't really think she's completely misread  you, do you?  And you can't be that far off that she's much more sexually agressive than you thought?  People don't read each other that far off in real life, only on TV soap operas.

And get off the depressing music.  Get your mental picture that it's going to be a fun, relaxed, casual evening.  Don't put pressures of failure or success on it.  Your 1st goal is to relax so you can subconsiously be yourself.  Your 2nd goal is to relax and just enjoy her being herself so you can get to know her.

(Do I sound like Hitch?)
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Thanks!

This is all sinking in. I already gave her an internet rose. One of these:

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I told her that it was yellow (a gesture of friendship) but that I don't give roses to my guy friends, either! She said she thought it was sweet. I hope that's not a mixed message. Would it be a mixed message if I told her our next outing is a date? I'm definitely warming up to her. I'm an all or nothing kind of guy, and it seems like we talk like we are already boyfriend and girlfriend, but maybe my perception is skewed. (She's already "training me.")

She's Catholic, and she's a good person, but she doesn't accept the Church's teaching on contraception. She says she'll never change that. I've tried not to argue about it. I don't think I can change anybody's mind, but I know God can, because he changed me! I want to take her to Adoration if this thing pans out. I have an open mind.

[jasJis]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Nov 15 2005, 09:19 AM']Thanks!

This is all sinking in. I already gave her an internet rose. One of these:

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I told her that it was yellow (a gesture of friendship) but that I don't give roses to my guy friends, either! She said she thought it was sweet. I hope that's not a mixed message. Would it be a mixed message if I told her our next outing is a date? [/quote]It's not a mixed message if you want it to be a date.
[quote]I'm definitely warming up to her. I'm an all or nothing kind of guy, and it seems like we talk like we are already boyfriend and girlfriend, but maybe my perception is skewed. (She's already "training me.")[/quote]Careful of the 'all or nothing'! Relax and be steady. And yes, she is training you and you are training her. We teach people how we want to be treated. That's why it's important to relax and be steady.
[quote]She's Catholic, and she's a good person, but she doesn't accept the Church's teaching on contraception. She says she'll never change that. I've tried not to argue about it. I don't think I can change anybody's mind, but I know God can, because he changed me! I want to take her to Adoration if this thing pans out. I have an open mind.
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[/quote]Again, relax and be patient. God is very patient. Look how patient He's been with humanity. She'll have very specific reasons about why she holds her present opinoin about contraception. Be very open and have in your mind that her reasons for contraception are probably good, but it's the how. For instance, we have to be responsible for our kids. If she is considering being financially able to raise kids, or emotionally capable, or even physically able to carry a child to term. There may be huge trust issues about a possible spouse caused by bad examples by uncles or even her own father. DON"T jump to conclusions. Keep you heart and mind open to patience.

[theculturewarrior]

Thanks!

This really helps me.

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[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Nov 15 2005, 09:19 AM']Thanks!

This is all sinking in. I already gave her an internet rose. One of these:

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I told her that it was yellow (a gesture of friendship) but that I don't give roses to my guy friends, either! She said she thought it was sweet. I hope that's not a mixed message. Would it be a mixed message if I told her our next outing is a date? I'm definitely warming up to her. I'm an all or nothing kind of guy, and it seems like we talk like we are already boyfriend and girlfriend, but maybe my perception is skewed. (She's already "training me.")

She's Catholic, and she's a good person, but she doesn't accept the Church's teaching on contraception. She says she'll never change that. I've tried not to argue about it. I don't think I can change anybody's mind, but I know God can, because he changed me! I want to take her to Adoration if this thing pans out. I have an open mind.
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I will be praying for her! Sometimes people don't even know why we believe what we believe about contraception because of poor catechesis. I always thought it was irrational and unreasonable until I actually listened to the Church's argument about it. Maybe she will listen to you

I don't know about the training business... Just be yourself! I've had boyfriends in the past and I'm sure we've "trained" one another, but I know I've had to unlearn some of the stupid things they taught me, and I'm pretty sure they had to unlearn some of the stupid things I've taught them. Let the Holy Spirit guide you!