The Post That You Have All Been Waiting For....

[mulls]

Do you trust the many different interpretations of the Bible, which all claim to be of the Holy Spirit?

what do you mean by interpretations of the bible?

i trust my bible.

and aren't there quite a few catholic 'interpretations?'

[Dave]

what do you mean by interpretations of the bible?

i trust my bible.

and aren't there quite a few catholic 'interpretations?'

Oh my, this could get rather long!

Some interpret the Bible to say we can't lose our salvation, while others interpret it to say that we can.

Some interpret the Bible to say that there's no Trinity, while others interpret it to say that there is.

Some interpret the Bible to say that the Eucharist is merely symbolic, while others interpret it to say that it's literal.

Some interpret the Bible to say that the Church is invisible, while others interpret it to say it's visible.

Some interpret the Bible to say that Mary is to be ignored, while others intrepret it to mean that she's to be honored.

And on and on ad nauseam . . .

And as for Catholic interpretations of the Bible, those are only for those parts whose meaning the Church has attempted to define. The parts that are open to varying interpretations are those parts about which the Church has no teaching. The Church hasn't attempted to interpret every single little detail in Scripture.

And Mulls, you say you trust your Bible. Well, what makes you so certain you know how to interpret Scripture correctly? Note that saying you're guided by the Holy Spirit is an unacceptable response.

[God Conquers]

What in Scripture leads you to believe that you should rely solely on it?

[CatholicAndFanatical]

I havent read this answer yet, so I might as well ask it..Did Phreaky Chic actually open the catechism? The only thing I got from her post is that she figured out her answer by the way other people act. But isnt that basing God on Feelings? wrong way to go. So Phreaky did you actually open and read the Catechism at all?

CatholicAndFanatical

[Paladin D]

Here is a link to an online Catechism, Freaky. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

[Paladin D]

Note that saying you're guided by the Holy Spirit is an unacceptable response.

Dave is not saying, that people can't be guided by the Holy Spirit. But interpretations that contradict that of it's true meaning and that of the Catholic Church's, the claim must be false.

[God Conquers]

There are very important differences between our faiths.

Do you think that it is important whether or not Christ is physically present on earth RIGHT NOW?

Do you think it is not important that Christ says that if you don't eat his flesh and drink his blood, practiced by the Catholic CHurch alone, then you HAVE NO LIFE WITHIN YOU?

[mulls]

i thought paladin was speaking about biblical interpretations as in bible versions.

[Anna]

what do you mean by interpretations of the bible?

i trust my bible.

and aren't there quite a few catholic 'interpretations?'

mulls,

Remember that the entire New Testament was written by the first Catholic priests and bishops, under God's inspiration.

They knew the meanings of what they wrote. They preached and explained it to their successors, who taught it to their successors, and on and on. The teachings of the Church today can be trusted because these were beliefs which were held during the time of Christ and were taught, even if not recorded in the Scriptures, by the Apostles to the Early Church Fathers.

The Catholic Church is One, and only renders One True interpretation of Scripture. A single priest may preach heresy (as did Martin Luther, for instance) but the Church preserves the True interpretation.

Yes, we love our Catholic Faith, we love our Church! But why love it, if it wasn't founded by Christ? If it wasn't the Bride of Christ? If It wasn't the Mystical Body of Christ? If It wasn't Holy, and It's teachings free from error?

Our Church excels in the interpretation of the Scriptures, precisely because our Church's teachings and interpretations were taught directly from the mouth of God--Jesus Christ. Can you imagine Him opening His mouth and saying "you are rock, and upon YOU, I will build My Church?"

From that point on, Peter and the Apostles knew that Peter was to be the voice of authority in the Church which Jesus was instituting.

Who understands a book better? The writer, or the reader?

Pax Christi. <><

Edited December 11, 2003 by Anna

[Paladin D]

i thought paladin was speaking about biblical interpretations as in bible versions.

I was refering to interpretations, not versions.

"Misreading people's posts, another unfortunate side affect of hunger.

GRAB A SNICKERS! Don't let hunger happen you!"

:lol:

[CatholicAndFanatical]

excellent posts anna, your on fire today :D

No really YOU'RE ON FIRE!!! :blink:

[Paladin D]

excellent posts anna, your on fire today :D

No really  YOU'RE ON FIRE!!!

We need to call the fire department before she burns up to a crisp.

[Freaky Chik]

I havent read this answer yet, so I might as well ask it..Did Phreaky Chic actually open the catechism? The only thing I got from her post is that she figured out her answer by the way other people act. But isnt that basing God on Feelings? wrong way to go. So Phreaky did you actually open and read the Catechism at all?

  CatholicAndFanatical

Yes i did open it. But no I did not finish reading all of it. Because to tell you the truth, it was not very edifying... i'd rather "eat" from the Word of God. Also, alot of you were getting rather impatient with me and accusing me of unjust things and mocking me for running away from the challenge, or whatever. So I thought I my aswell go post what I was thinking all along :)

[Anna]

A. Well don't just sit there, someone, extinguish me!!!!!

B. Yeah, I kinda figured Freaky was copping out on reading the catechism, but didn't want to accuse. But since she's blaming not reading it on everyone else, I'm just gonna say it: Freaky, you should take responsibility for your own actions and inactions, and not blame every little thing on somebody else. You could've fed on the Word of God in the catechism, if you'd bothered to read it. There are so many Bible quotes in it, it would've blown you away. And what's more, it would've given you a greater perspective on how the Bible speaks to mankind in the modern world. Cuz God speaks to us through the Bible, and through the Church He founded. Your loss. I hope you decide to delve into it on your own one day, because it truly is very "edifying."

Pax Christi. <><

[jmjtina]

Remember that the entire New Testament was written by the first Catholic priests and bishops, under God's inspiration.

They knew the meanings of what they wrote.  They preached and explained it to their successors, who taught it to their successors, and on and on.  The teachings of the Church today can be trusted because these were beliefs which were held during the time of Christ and were taught, even if not recorded in the Scriptures, by the Apostles to the Early Church Fathers.

The Catholic Church is One, and only renders One True interpretation of Scripture.  A single priest may preach heresy (as did Martin Luther, for instance) but the Church preserves the True interpretation.

Yes, we love our Catholic Faith, we love our Church!  But why love it, if it wasn't founded by Christ?  If it wasn't the Bride of Christ?  If It wasn't the Mystical Body of Christ?  If It wasn't Holy, and It's teachings free from error? 

Our Church excels in the interpretation of the Scriptures, precisely because our Church's teachings and interpretations were taught directly from the mouth of God--Jesus Christ.  Can you imagine Him opening His mouth and saying "you are rock, and upon YOU, I will build My Church?" 

From that point on, Peter and the Apostles knew that Peter was to be the voice of authority in the Church which Jesus was instituting. 

Who understands a book better?  The writer, or the reader?

Pax Christi. <><

;)

[Winchester]

There will be no illegal burning. Any stakes to be used must have proper safety precautions.

Freaky,

Ya copped out, and you've basically said that the history of the Bible means diddly. You are going to follow your own private interpretation, beaver dam, the torpedos.

Allowing those taunting you to convince you to promote your admitted preconcieved notion is just another copout.

[[jas]]

How about, we go by what the Word of God says, not a man-made addition to it.

[Don John of Austria]

"How about, we go by what the Word of God says, not a man-made addition to it. "

You are aware that the Bible didn't just fall out of the sky prewritten and Bound right. Men wrote it and then a bunch of other men decided what was going to go into it and tossed out more books than they put in.

[[jas]]

Men wrote it

Inspired by the H.S.

a bunch of other men decided what was going to go into it

Based on a number of factors including historical reliability, so we could be sure what we were reading is definately what was written x hundred of years ago by those men who were inspired.

Your point?

[foundsheep]

And to add to what Don John said, the word is inspired,not dictated.