Akalyte Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) That monument just turned my stomache. I have a feeling all this focus on other religions by some in our Holy Church is going to make me leave it one day. Its going to push me into Atheism. I believe the Catholic Church is the only "way". Just as the Church has always taught. It just seems like we are sliding away from that. I guess Christ is not the way the truth and the life and the only way to the Father, I guess buddha, muhhamed, beetles, trees and whatever else people worship lead there as well. HERESY! I'm not going to lie I find this troubling. Edited July 7, 2006 by Akalyte
brendan1104 Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) [quote]Many indeed have never known Thee; many, too, despising Thy precepts, have rejected Thee. Have mercy on them all, most merciful Jesus and draw them to Thy Sacred Heart. Be Thou King, O Lord, not only of the faithful who have never forsaken Thee, but also of the prodigal children who have abandoned Thee. Grant that they may quickly return to their Father's house, lest they die of wretchedness and hunger. Be Thou King of those who are deceived by erroneous opinions, or whom discord keeps aloof, and call them back to the harbor of truth and unity of faith, so that soon there may be but one flock and one Shepherd. Be Thou King of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry and Islamism and refuse not to draw them all into the light and kingdom of God. Turn Thine eyes of mercy toward the children of that Race, once Thy Chosen People. Of old they called down upon themselves the Blood of the Savior; may It now descend upon them a laver of redemption and of life. [/quote] - from the Consecration of the Human Race to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, by Pope Pius XI Edited July 7, 2006 by brendan1104
Budge Posted July 7, 2006 Author Posted July 7, 2006 [quote]That monument just turned my stomache. I have a feeling all this focus on other religions by some in our Holy Church is going to make me leave it one day. Its going to push me into Atheism. I believe the Catholic Church is the only "way". Just as the Church has always taught. It just seems like we are sliding away from that. I guess Christ is not the way the truth and the life and the only way to the Father, I guess buddha, muhhamed, beetles, trees and whatever else people worship lead there as well. HERESY! I'm not going to lie I find this troubling.[/quote] When I was back in the Catholic Church, I had to face facts that their interfaith teachings were a delusion. Since I had already spent years in a Unitarian Universalist church, {I was a cradle Catholic} I couldnt be fooled by such words like dialogue and interdependence. I know they werent Christian words. You need to beleive that CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY. I made the decision to place all of my trust in Jesus Christ. If you leave the Catholic Church you do not have to be an atheist, You can turn to Him totally. The Roman Catholic church is fulfilling Revelation 17.
Akalyte Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) If i ever left the church, there is no way I could be anything else but an atheist. I'm going to leave this message board for a while and consult my Priest. This thread is going to be closed. Edited July 7, 2006 by Akalyte
Akalyte Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) I was only kidding...I was just posting the kind of response you were expecting to get. LOL I aint ever leaving the church and Iaint ever becoming an Atheist. Read my sig... Edited July 7, 2006 by Akalyte
Budge Posted July 7, 2006 Author Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) Your priest will tell you what mine did when I consulted him before I left the Catholic Church. He will make excuses for the apostasty. Dont become an atheist. Put your faith in God rather then men. Read scripture, ALL THESE THINGS ARE WARNED OF IN REVELATION. Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. Act 5:29 Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. This verse is very important for these times Many churches have gone apostate, not just the Catholic one. It is essential that one put their total trust in God. [quote]I was only kidding...I was just posting the kind of response you were expecting to get. LOL I aint ever leaving the church and Iaint ever becoming an Atheist. Read my sig...[/quote] You do know that lying is a sin dont you. Interesting that you see your faith in such a flippant manner. I would never joke about ceasing to be a Christian. Ive had Catholics tell theyd become an atheist if they lost faith in the Catholic church before. In that case they WERENT joking. Sad that so many have their faith in human institutions rather then in God. Edited July 7, 2006 by Budge
Akalyte Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 The Catholic Church is not a human institution...Many make it out to be but its not.There are many groups in the church becoming heterodoxm but the Church still stands, even after 2000 years of every collamity and persecution possible. Christ will purify his Church.
Fidei Defensor Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 [quote name='Budge']Did you know Benedict has planned an Assisi III, this means they will AGAIN sponser false religions each praying to their own demon in seperate rooms.[/quote] I'm so glad you are in close contact with the Holy Father. Please, tell us more about what the Pope is planning on doing
SJP Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 Budge, I will take some of the advice that you offer. Put your faith in God rather then men. I will indeed put my faith in God and the Church that he established over 2000 years ago. Read scripture I will indeed read scripture and be humble enough to look to the Church for proper interpretation.
Budge Posted July 8, 2006 Author Posted July 8, 2006 [quote] I'm so glad you are in close contact with the Holy Father. Please, tell us more about what the Pope is planning on doing rolleyes.gif[/quote] Sure I will... Posted by Amy Welborn open book July 1, 2006 amywelborn.typepad.com/op...l#comments [quote] Pope approves gathering: Benedict XVI has approved an international Inter-Religious Encounter of Prayer for Peace organized by the Sant'Egidio Community (founded by Andrea Riccardi, a frequent contributor to the Vatican newspaper Osservatore Romano.) [size=5]This will take place September 4-5 in Assissi, to commemorate the 20th anniversary of an event that was dar to Pope John Paul II, and which was not fully looked on with approval at the time by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The slogan of the encounter is "For a world of peace and of reigions and cultures in dialog". Religious leadres from all over the world have been invited, along with the heads of the various Christian confessions. [u] "We will pray for peace together but in different places," [/u]said Mario Marazziti, spokesman for the Sant'Egidio Community.[/size] This second Assisi encounter comes in the context of rigid norms imposed by the Vatican last November on activities that may be undertaken within the Franciscan churches in Assisi.[/quote] looks like they are going to repeat the praying to pagan false gods in different rooms idea too...
cmotherofpirl Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1019455' date='Jul 7 2006, 06:05 PM'] When I was back in the Catholic Church, I had to face facts that their interfaith teachings were a delusion. Since I had already spent years in a Unitarian Universalist church, {I was a cradle Catholic} I couldnt be fooled by such words like dialogue and interdependence. I know they werent Christian words. You need to beleive that CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY. I made the decision to place all of my trust in Jesus Christ. If you leave the Catholic Church you do not have to be an atheist, You can turn to Him totally. The Roman Catholic church is fulfilling Revelation 17. [/quote] Budge if we were to leave the Catholic Church, the only options would be giving up the belief in Jesus Christ: judiasm or atheism. You really don't expect us to join any group that was founded to protest the Church founded by Jesus do you? There is a difference between abandoning faith and abandoning reason.
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 they left out the swastika that is supposed to be on that symbol of Jainism.
dUSt Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 Budge, Again, if you are so against inter-religious dialogue, what are you doing here, with all of us Catholics? I honestly don't get it. How do you reconcile this contradiction?
Thy Geekdom Come Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 Budge, your proud-hearted insistence that we are simply using "EVERY MODE OF EVASION IN ORDER TO DISCONCERT" you is silly. You aren't even responding to the valid points we bring up, but are merely accusing us of "subtle evasions" and the like. If you want to debate against philosophy, then use logic. If you just want to shout over and over again that we're sly devils without giving any proof to your argument, then I suggest you listen to dUSt.
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 In all charity, please stop calling the Church "universalist" and advancing the conspiracy theory that we are working to create a world-religion until you answer our responses adaquatly. All we are getting is rhetoric and a total disregard of our replies.
jswranch Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1019455' date='Jul 7 2006, 04:05 PM'] The Roman Catholic church is fulfilling Revelation 17. [/quote] Please prove it. I find no evidence for this. Start a new thread.
Budge Posted July 10, 2006 Author Posted July 10, 2006 Just added one for you today JW. That Ganesh loving Cardinal was appointed to one of the PONTIFICAL councils for EVANGELIZATION. [quote]Budge, Again, if you are so against inter-religious dialogue, what are you doing here, with all of us Catholics? I honestly don't get it. How do you reconcile this contradiction?[/quote] Catholic dialogue is rap sessions where each party agrees to learn from the other. This is where you end up with Catholic monks visiting ashrams. Im here to warn you and tell you the truth about what Gods Word says...
dUSt Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1021143' date='Jul 10 2006, 10:33 AM'] Catholic dialogue is rap sessions where each party agrees to learn from the other. This is where you end up with Catholic monks visiting ashrams. Im here to warn you and tell you the truth about what Gods Word says... [/quote] First of all, I never see you post anything about what God's word says--rather, I see you only make posts bashing the church--usually from sources that have nothing to do with the Bible. And regardless of how you define it, you [b]are[/b] engaging in a dialogue with us. You are doing exactly what the church seeks to do with other religions. Talk, debate, correct. Please show me where the church has agreed to learn anything about God from other religions. Give me a break. The Catholic Church is the only institution in the world who continually stands up to proclaim the truth without compromise.
Socrates Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='Akalyte' post='1019431' date='Jul 7 2006, 03:26 PM'] That monument just turned my stomache. I have a feeling all this focus on other religions by some in our Holy Church is going to make me leave it one day. Its going to push me into Atheism. I believe the Catholic Church is the only "way". Just as the Church has always taught. It just seems like we are sliding away from that. I guess Christ is not the way the truth and the life and the only way to the Father, I guess buddha, muhhamed, beetles, trees and whatever else people worship lead there as well. HERESY! I'm not going to lie I find this troubling. [/quote] What some Jesuits may do has no bearing on the truth of the Catholic Faith.
Franimus Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 There already [u]is[/u] one religion for the whole world: Catholicism. You'll always have dissenters and rebels who don't want to be in the universal Church, even if it wasn't Catholicism.
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