Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 On his trip to Brazil this week, B16 will raise to "sainthood" Brazil's first indigenous "saint." Now very little has been said about him to date, so, shall we have a LOOKSEE into WHY the Catholic Church considers this prelate worthy of being a demigod? Im sorry but eating paper prayers is witchcraft... [quote] Quote:Speaking of saints, Benedict XVI will canonize the first Brazilian-born saint in church history during his five-day trip, on May 11: [b]an 18th century Franciscan named Antonio de Sant’Anna Galvao, or “Frei Galvao,” whose claim to fame is that he developed a paper “pill” inscribed with a prayer to the Virgin Mary, which devotees ingest in hopes of a miracle. The pills are reputed to have cured everything from depression to hepatitis. [/b] The pills are made by religious sisters at the Convent of Light in São Paolo, where Galvao died in 1832 at the age of 83.[b] They contain the following prayer: “After the birth, the Virgin remained intact / Mother of God, intercede on our behalf.” Devotees swallow three pills over nine days while reciting the prayer. [/b] [u] In 2006, devotees consumed an average of 90,000 pills a month[/u], according to Brazilian press reports. Since Galvao’s canonization was announced, that number jumped to 140,000. The miracle which cleared the way for the canonization was reported by a Brazilian woman, who had a deformity in her uterus which doctors said would make it impossible for her to carry a baby to term. After ingesting Galvao’s pills, however, she said she was able to carry her child for seven and a half months until he was delivered by Caesarean section. [b] The pills are not the only sign of supernatural accomplishment attributed to Galvao. He is also said to have levitated while praying, and to have had the ability to read minds and to witness events even when he wasn’t physically present[/b]. Pregnant women sometimes borrow a frayed piece of rope believed to have been Galvao’s belt, and wear it around their mid-section in hopes of a smooth birth. Devotees even hammer off tiny chunks of the wall from Galvao’s monastery and brew them in a tea, which they drink as a sort of elixir thought to promote good health. Auxiliary Bishop Edgar Moreira da Cunha of Newark, New Jersey, the only Brazilian-born bishop in the United States, said in an April 30 interview that until the canonization was announced, Galvao was not a well-known figure. “Frankly, I didn’t know about this thing with the pill until recently,” he said. “It wasn’t known in Brazil. It’s a very localized thing in São Paolo.” Devotion to Galvao has not always played to positive reviews.[u][b] Some see it as superstitious and tinged with elements of folk magic. Cardinal Aloísio Leo Arlindo Lorscheider, now retired from the Aparecida diocese, said in 1998 that he considered the devotion “ridiculous,” and prohibited local nuns from making the pills.[/b][/u] (They kept doing it anyway.) Da Cunha said he doubted the canonization would stir much controversy. For most people, he said, the only thing that matters is that a Brazilian is being honored. “In Brazilian culture, and this is probably true of all Latin America, rituals and external forms of piety, the statues and all these things, are very, very popular, it’s embedded in the culture,” he said. “People like that and they go to these places. Our church is diversified enough to have room for all these options.”[/quote] [url="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117868203365996868.html"]PRAYER PILLS GETTING POPULAR[/url] Ok the wooden barbie doll games were bad enough, but canonizing this guy who is basically ADVANCING superstition and WITCHCRAFT? Are you all going to start chopping down on your Mead Notebooks full of prayers soon?
prose Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Yes, in fact, as I read that I was making my own magic pills.
prose Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Here is the real story by the way: [quote]BLESSED ANTÔNIO DE SANT’ANNA GALVÃO Priest - AD 1822 Bl. Antonio de Sant'Anna Galvao was born in 1739 in Guaratinguetá, São Paulo, Brazil, to a deeply religious family of high social standing. When he was 13, his father sent him to the Jesuit seminary In Belém, but on account of the anti-Jesuit climate, his father later recommended that he pursue his vocation with the Alcantarine Franciscans instead. On 15 April 1760, he entered the noviciate at St Bonaventure Friary in Macacu, Rio de Janeiro. After making his solemn profession in 1761, he was ordained a priest on 11 June 1762 and was sent to St Francis Friary in Sao Paulo, where in 1768 he was appointed preacher, confessor of the laity and porter. In 1769-70 he served as confessor to the "Recolhimento" of some devout women, the Recollects of St Teresa in Sao Paulo. Here he met Sr Helena Maria of the Holy Spirit, who said she had visions in which Jesus was asking her to make a new "Recolhimento". The new foundation, Our Lady of the Conception of Divine Providence, was established on 2 February 1774 and modeled on the Conceptionists. In its early days, it accepted young girls who wished to live as religious without being bound by vows. After Sr Helena's unexpected death in 1775, Friar Galvao showed humility and prudence in caring for the Recollects. Due to the great number of vocations, more space was required. It took him 28 years to build the convent and the church, which was dedicated on 15 August 1802. Friar Galvao gave his full attention to the Recollects' formation. His principal work is the excellent Rule or Statute he wrote for them, which clearly reveals his personality. In 1929 this convent became a monastery, incorporated into the Order of the Immaculate Conception. In 1781 Friar Galvao was appointed novice master in Macacu and in 1798, guardian of St Francis Friary in Sao Paulo. He was reelected in 1801. But the "Recollects da Luz" and the Bishop of Sao Paulo appealed to the Provincial: "None of the inhabitants of this city will be able to bear the absence of this religious for a single moment ... ". As a result, he returned. In 1802 he became definitor and in 1808, visitator general and president of the Chapter, but was forced to give up these posts for reasons of health. In 1811 he founded St Clare Friary in Sorocaba, Sao Paulo. After 11 months, he returned to Sao Paulo to St Francis Friary. In his old age, he obtained permission from the Bishop and the guardian to stay at the Recolhimento da Luz. He died on 23 December 1822. Friar Galvao was buried in the Recholhimento church, and his tomb continues to be a destination for pilgrimages of the faithful, who obtain graces through the intercession of this "man of peace and charity", the founder of the "Recolhimento de Nossa Senhora da Luz". [url="http://www.ewtn.com/new_evangelization/america/holiness/saints1.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/new_evangelization/ame...ess/saints1.htm[/url][/quote]
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 Hey why not your Pope seems to think its ok, free to go.... Course God thinks differently of this nonsense.
cathoholic_anonymous Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) [quote]Course God thinks differently of this nonsense.[/quote] You're not a prophet, Budge, however much you might imagine yourself as one. You are your own one-woman Magisterium. Edited May 9, 2007 by Cathoholic Anonymous
kenrockthefirst Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1269203' date='May 9 2007, 12:57 PM']Course God thinks differently of this nonsense.[/quote] All hail Budge, the Great and Powerful...
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 You know what is weird about you all is you keep pointing to me. So its BUDGE that outlawed the worshipping of Hindu deities? {wow I didnt know that} and here I thought I was just trying to OBEY God's word..{I suggest you do that same rather then follow after apostate universalist hirelings} [b]Exd 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.[/b]
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 [quote]You are your own one-woman Magisterium.[/quote] [mod]mockary isn't nice budge--hsm[/mod] If they cant get even the first commandment down pat? You honestly think these guys know what they are doing?
Starets Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 I see nothing in the real story to justify him being called a "folk magician".
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 So eating pieces of paper to get what you want--health, money etc, is ok? Whatever happened to simple prayer to God?
Brother Adam Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 [quote name='prose' post='1269201' date='May 9 2007, 04:55 PM']Here is the real story by the way:[/quote] Thank you for the real story, I don't like it when Budge slanders others.
Brother Adam Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1269258' date='May 9 2007, 05:45 PM']Whatever happened to simple prayer to God?[/quote] "Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a Sinner" is a simple prayer. But you keep calling it vein repetition. Which of course it isn't. Why do you contradict yourself so much?
mulls Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 It looks like the Wall Street Journal published that story, not Budge. Is that report accurate or not accurate?
Brother Adam Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) [quote name='mulls' post='1269281' date='May 9 2007, 05:59 PM']It looks like the Wall Street Journal published that story, not Budge. Is that report accurate or not accurate?[/quote] Would you want your information on the Baptist Church from the Baptist journal or a secular, liberal, anti-Christian journal? Edited May 9, 2007 by Brother Adam
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 Now I write for newspapers too? Yeah yeah, only the santized version that leads out the part about the pills is correct. Nice to close your eyes to everything you dont like, kind of convienient. Yeah Yeah its those bad journalists MAKING IT ALL UP {actually this stuff is so crazy, it has to be true because who would MAKE THIS UP} [img]http://www.realcities.com/images/realcities/krwashington/17056/290923730488.jpg[/img] Mara Pedroso shows off the miraculous "pills" she has just received March 26, 2007, in the Convent of Light in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The pills are snippets of rice paper printed with prayer, which Franciscan monk Antonio de Sant'anna Galvao first began...
mulls Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) [quote]Would you want your information on the Baptist Church from the Baptist journal or a secular, liberal, anti-Christian journal?[/quote] Depends, either way is biased. But that's why I'm asking you, to balance it out. Is that report accurate, or not accurate? Edited May 9, 2007 by mulls
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 I guess all this is made up too..{photoshopped, actors, actresses, etc} [img]http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/Brazil-saint2/images/BRAZI_02(7).jpg[/img] [i] Sandra Grossi de Almeida and her seven-year-old son, Enzzo de Almeida Gallafassi, talk about Franciscan monk Antonio de Sant'anna Galvao. The two hold an image of the monk. Doctors told Grossi de Almeida she couldn't give birth due to a malformation in her uterus, but she did so after eating a snippet of rice paper with parts of a prayer printed on it. Grossi de Almeida's story provided the second miracle necessary for the monk's canonization. Jack Chang/MCT[/i] [url="http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/Brazil-saint2/index.html"]LINK[/url] Wow even ONE of the miracles that were necessary for his canonization was LINKED to the chowing down of paper.
Budge Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) Look more stand ins! [img]http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/Brazil-saint2/images/BRAZI_06(2).jpg[/img] [i] People wait to receive the miraculous "pills," rice paper printed with prayer, of Franciscan monk Antonio de Sant'anna Galvao at the Convent of Light in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Jack Chang/MCT[/i] [img]http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/Brazil-saint2/images/BRAZI_03(3).jpg[/img] [i]Terezina Peixoto rolls rice paper printed with prayer that will be cut and distributed as miraculous "pills" to the faithful.[/i] Edited May 9, 2007 by Budge
prose Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 I don't believe it is false. I believe that was only PART of the story. A half truth is still not the truth. The Catholic Church doesn't randomly approve miracles. It is a long process. The "magic pills" you are referring to are not the ones that this man is creditted for. They are made by nun's who were, in fact, disobeying what the Church told them.
Paladin D Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1269287' date='May 9 2007, 04:04 PM']I guess all this is made up too..{photoshopped, actors, actresses, etc} [img]http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/Brazil-saint2/images/BRAZI_02(7).jpg[/img] [i] Sandra Grossi de Almeida and her seven-year-old son, Enzzo de Almeida Gallafassi, talk about Franciscan monk Antonio de Sant'anna Galvao. The two hold an image of the monk. Doctors told Grossi de Almeida she couldn't give birth due to a malformation in her uterus, but she did so after eating a snippet of rice paper with parts of a prayer printed on it. Grossi de Almeida's story provided the second miracle necessary for the monk's canonization. Jack Chang/MCT[/i] [url="http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/Brazil-saint2/index.html"]LINK[/url] Wow even ONE of the miracles that were necessary for his canonization was LINKED to the chowing down of paper.[/quote] Notice how Budge isn't thankful for the woman's miracle to birth a beautiful child. Christian love at it's finest.
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