Legitimacy Of The Death Penalty

[catholicinsd]

[quote]
[b]should abortion doctors be executed?[/b]

I believe so.[/quote]

What?

[goldenchild17]

Not clear enough for you?

[jckinsman]

This question, I do not understand? What they do is extremely evil~ Yet when you watch the movie "the silent scream" those two doctors,that had filmed it,one right away quit and the other soon there after. Makes you kind of wonder if they TRULY knew the gravity of what they were doing ,they were fine until they watched the film and saw the little one sceaming and trying to get away!??? I am aware that some know fully what they are doing,and don't care,and some are more lured by the money.They go numbly to there jobs and just work and justify there actions with pitiful excuses. The reactions to this film from these two doctors made me realize this that God changed there hearts by the reality of the horror. So why would you execute someone for that? Is it not better that one sinner come back to the Lord?
We must pray for these Doctors and mothers! Not execute them! JC

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1285715' date='Jun 1 2007, 01:20 AM']The reactions to this film from these two doctors made me realize this that God changed there hearts by the reality of the horror. So why would you execute someone for that? Is it not better that one sinner come back to the Lord?[/quote]
I'm not aware of the case you are referring to, but I understand things like this happen and I believe in cases of a full confession of their guilt and some evidence of true repentance then the sentence can, and should, be reduced.

[jckinsman]

Two abortion doctors one day decided to film the entire process of an abortion. They would spend the day,filming what happens inside the womb of the mother in hopes to ease the fears of the women coming in for the abortion. Their intent was to prove it was no big deal, and that the fetus did not even know what was happening! After the day was done both of them decided to sit down and preveiw the film. What they saw was a complete horror. A tiny baby struggling to get away from the doctors tools and then turning towards the side as the baby was dieing and screaming, hence the name "the silent scream" I believe you can get the film to preveiw yourself. I warn you though it's not pretty! But beyond the movie itself, it really opened the eyes of two Doctors that once thought it was okay! How many more Doctors can be enlightened? I agree, Full Repentance is a must! Execution though? Yikes! I also agree a crime has taken place,don't get me wrong there will be consequences for there actions in this life or the next! Peace! JC

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1285976' date='Jun 1 2007, 02:08 PM']Two abortion doctors one day decided to film the entire process of an abortion. They would spend the day,filming what happens inside the womb of the mother in hopes to ease the fears of the women coming in for the abortion. Their intent was to prove it was no big deal, and that the fetus did not even know what was happening! After the day was done both of them decided to sit down and preveiw the film. What they saw was a complete horror. A tiny baby struggling to get away from the doctors tools and then turning towards the side as the baby was dieing and screaming, hence the name "the silent scream" I believe you can get the film to preveiw yourself. I warn you though it's not pretty! But beyond the movie itself, it really opened the eyes of two Doctors that once thought it was okay! How many more Doctors can be enlightened? I agree, Full Repentance is a must! Execution though? Yikes! I also agree a crime has taken place,don't get me wrong there will be consequences for there actions in this life or the next! Peace! JC[/quote]

There's a hiphop cru called "Communalien" with a song called "Silent Screams" that you might like...

[catholicinsd]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1285705' date='Jun 1 2007, 01:17 AM']Not clear enough for you?[/quote]

It because of fanatics such as you- who advocate the murder of the doctors- that the anti-abortion has been harassed so very much. The blood of many is on your hands. You would be ashamed of yourself- but you don't have those scrupples, or any.

[b]You are not pro-life. You aren't even anti-abortion; as you obviously favor aborting the doctor's life. [/b]

May God have pity on your murderous soul.

P

[Apotheoun]

Your comments are uncharitable to say the least.

Sadly, more then 45 million innocent human beings have been killed in the United States alone through the crime of abortion. That said, the doctors who perform these horrific procedures should be prosecuted for murder, and they should willingly accept a punishment that is commensurate with the gravity of their own evil actions.

[catholicinsd]

And saying murder is ok is charitable?

[Apotheoun]

A person who performs an abortion is a murderer, and should face criminal prosecution and punishment.

God bless,
Todd

[catholicinsd]

Todd, how in the Lord's name did a person as ignorant as you become a "church sholar?"

[Apotheoun]

Abortion is a crime, no matter what the positive law of the United States says (or any other country for that matter).

That said, a doctor who performs an abortion has committed an act of murder, and should be prosecuted and punished for his crime.

God bless,
Todd

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='catholicinsd' post='1286139' date='Jun 1 2007, 07:23 PM']Todd, how in the Lord's name did a person as ignorant as you become a "church sholar?"[/quote]
Just for your information, the word "scholar" has a "c" in it.

God bless,
Todd

[catholicinsd]

Well if correcting a typo is your biggest defense for supporting murder, then heaven help us all.

[Apotheoun]

Since you evidently missed my earlier post, here it is again:

[quote]Abortion is a crime, no matter what the positive law of the United States says (or any other country for that matter).

That said, a doctor who performs an abortion has committed an act of murder, and should be prosecuted and punished for his crime.[/quote]
God bless,
Todd

[RezaMikhaeil]

I believe that life in prison could be worse then the death penalty, if it were harsher to some degree but also affective in habilitating those serving time. Currently the prison system is lacking severely, in that it doesn't habilitate and that some prisons are too lax.

Note: This comment applies to the their question on the poll.

Edited June 2, 2007 by RezaLemmyng

[dairygirl4u2c]

Apo hasn't said he's advocating murder. I'm guessing he's not sure whether it's okay or not. Or, just not wanting to provoke anything.
He does have a way of stating things so vaguely that sometimes I think it's a way for him to not face issues.
Maybe he doen't like to admit he doesn't know, as that'd clarify a lot.
Who knows, but it sure is interesting.

Anyway, killing for killing isn't going to solve the problem. Full retribution in terms of death doesn't fix anything. Some retribution might be proper for retributions sake, but not death and probably not always life in jail unless there's preventative reasons. you have to allow something proportional. If they were fixed, you could proably let them out. It's a tough decision.
Even I'm being somewhat vague too. I don't really know completely either. Oh well.

[catholicinsd]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1286159' date='Jun 1 2007, 09:46 PM']That said, a doctor who performs an abortion has committed an act of murder, and should be prosecuted and punished for his crime.[/quote]

At present it isn't a crime, and certainly not one warranting death.

And you know what? It probably would be a crime if not for the zealots like you.

[jckinsman]

[quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1286077' date='Jun 1 2007, 07:48 PM']There's a hiphop cru called "Communalien" with a song called "Silent Screams" that you might like...[/quote]
Wow ,does all that intelligence come directly from Tacoma?............... or were you raised somewhere else in this lovely liberal state? Let me guess the lakewood area? JC

Okay ,I know that wasn't very nice, but it made my husband laugh! .................your comment on the other hand didn't!

Edited June 2, 2007 by jckinsman

[RezaMikhaeil]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1286431' date='Jun 1 2007, 10:51 PM']Wow ,does all that intelligence come directly from Tacoma?............... or were you raised somewhere else in this lovely liberal state? Let me guess the lakewood area? JC[/quote] No I wasn't raised in Lakewood, I actually was raised 3 months of the year on Tulalip Native Reservation [Everett], then in Federalway and tacoma. However, I don't understand where your sarcasm comes from...

[quote]Okay ,I know that wasn't very nice, but it made my husband laugh! .................your comment on the other hand didn't![/quote] How was my comment meant to make you laugh and why would you take it as something to mock me over? I was telling about a song that exists on this very topic of abortion, that you might be interested in [from a local hiphop cru native of washington] and you pretty much insult me.

Reza