KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) [img]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/TheVoodookilla/r413836298.jpg[/img] Ha you'll all think it crazy but prophets and holy scripture speak of the Antichrist doing the same... Not that I believe Obama is the Antichrist but it was sureal to hear people call him savior and the like. But more to another point was it right of him to put up campaign posters and images of himself at the temple wall in Jerusalem? Edited July 24, 2008 by KnightofChrist
CatherineM Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 He put up pictures of himself at the Wailing Wall? His arrogance is getting scary.
MissScripture Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 I heard on the radio today that his staff was telling the media that White House rules applied or something like that...basically, trying to say he was already pres.
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 It is the middle banner. It is hard to see here is a better more upclose one. [img]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/TheVoodookilla/r3291133389.jpg[/img] And here is the original link to the photo... dont know how long it will last, or be up. [url="http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080723/ids_photos_wl/r3291133389.jpg/"]http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/ph...3291133389.jpg/[/url]
kujo Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1607202' date='Jul 24 2008, 03:53 AM']It is the middle banner. It is hard to see here is a better more upclose one. [img]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/TheVoodookilla/r3291133389.jpg[/img] And here is the original link to the photo... dont know how long it will last, or be up. [url="http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080723/ids_photos_wl/r3291133389.jpg/"]http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/ph...3291133389.jpg/[/url][/quote] Is he responsible for the posters of his supporters?
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1607204' date='Jul 24 2008, 01:59 AM']Is he responsible for the posters of his supporters?[/quote] Was it really his supporters or his campaign? That is the question. I'm thinking it was his campaign. I assume your basing your comment on the quote.... "Supporters of U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)[b] hold[/b] a sign printed with his name in Hebrew as they wait for his arrival at the Western wall in Jerusalem July 23, 2008" The thing about that is they are [b]not[/b] holding the sign. Rather the signs are posted on the fence and they waiting in line at the signs, which becomes clear from other photos taken at different times, such as the first picture above, as well as others on yahoos slide show. Those signs are very pricey to print the colors alone are pricey not to mention the size of the sign. The point is they were either made by supports with a lot money or his campaign. It is more likely it was his campaign, so yes he would be responsible.
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 From [url="http://www.drudgereport.com/"]Drudge[/url] OBAMA VISITS WESTERN WALL IN OLD CITY JERUSALEM... ARRIVES AT 5:08 AM LOCAL TIME [10:08 PM ET]... SUNRISE... SHOUTING MAN: 'JERUSALEM IS NOT FOR SALE, OBAMA'... MOB SCENE... CHAOS... BOWING HIS HEAD IN PRAYER... PLACES NOTE IN WALL... POSES FOR PHOTOS... LOTS OF SHOUTING... LEAVES 5:20 AM... DEVELOPING...
Justin86 Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 What is he doing campaigning in the Middle East anyway? It's not like they can vote for him over there.
aalpha1989 Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Justin86' post='1607231' date='Jul 24 2008, 06:08 AM']What is he doing campaigning in the Middle East anyway? It's not like they can vote for him over there.[/quote] Yeah, but he's trying to make the United States' image better, and if he is elected, we will admittedly be viewed in a better light. Europeans (particularly Germans) are enthralled with Obama, and 75% of Germans actually said in a poll that they would vote for Obama over any of the politicians in their own country. Basically he's doing some smart tours for the long-term effects. McCain is trying hard to work on the people in the US, and he needs to. Obama's already got the support here that he needs to win. Edited July 24, 2008 by aalpha1989
Madame Vengier Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1606924' date='Jul 23 2008, 09:54 PM'][img]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/TheVoodookilla/r413836298.jpg[/img] Ha you'll all think it crazy but prophets and holy scripture speak of the Antichrist doing the same... Not that I believe Obama is the Antichrist but it was sureal to hear people call him savior and the like. But more to another point was it right of him to put up campaign posters and images of himself at the temple wall in Jerusalem?[/quote] IS THIS FOR REAL?????????????????? Please, please, please tell me this is NOT for real.
kujo Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1607205' date='Jul 24 2008, 04:11 AM']Was it really his supporters or his campaign? That is the question. I'm thinking it was his campaign. I assume your basing your comment on the quote.... "Supporters of U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)[b] hold[/b] a sign printed with his name in Hebrew as they wait for his arrival at the Western wall in Jerusalem July 23, 2008" The thing about that is they are [b]not[/b] holding the sign. Rather the signs are posted on the fence and they waiting in line at the signs, which becomes clear from other photos taken at different times, such as the first picture above, as well as others on yahoos slide show. Those signs are very pricey to print the colors alone are pricey not to mention the size of the sign. The point is they were either made by supports with a lot money or his campaign. It is more likely it was his campaign, so yes he would be responsible.[/quote] I dunno. Either way, it seems like a minor thing. I don't see the big deal.
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1607305' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:13 AM']I dunno. Either way, it seems like a minor thing. I don't see the big deal.[/quote] Well heres the big deal it is the most holy site for the Jewish people, politics have no place there. It is a insult, a slap in the face. Like if he went the the Holy Sepulcher and also put up campaign ads, and images of himself, then had a photo op.
kujo Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1607306' date='Jul 24 2008, 11:21 AM']Well heres the big deal it is the most holy site for the Jewish people, politics have no place there. It is a insult, a slap in the face. Like if he went the the Holy Sepulcher and also put up campaign ads, and images of himself, then had a photo op.[/quote] Many politicians go to the Wailing Wall for a photo op. It seems like a requisite in this country. [img]http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2007/01/bushblairwearingskullcaps.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.texemarrs.com/images/leiberman_mccain_wailing_wall.jpg[/img] I think his supporters made decision in poor taste but it really doesn't really affect my view of him.
kenrockthefirst Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1606924' date='Jul 23 2008, 09:54 PM'][img]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/TheVoodookilla/r413836298.jpg[/img] Ha you'll all think it crazy but prophets and holy scripture speak of the Antichrist doing the same... Not that I believe Obama is the Antichrist but it was sureal to hear people call him savior and the like. But more to another point was it right of him to put up campaign posters and images of himself at the temple wall in Jerusalem?[/quote] Take a deep breath, everyone. Obama is pandering to an important Democrat constituency, to wit, Jewish Americans. The issue is the pander, not that he's the "Anti-Christ." Let's not lose the run of ourselves.
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) [quote name='kujo' post='1607310' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:28 AM']Many politicians go to the Wailing Wall for a photo op. It seems like a requisite in this country. [img]http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2007/01/bushblairwearingskullcaps.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.texemarrs.com/images/leiberman_mccain_wailing_wall.jpg[/img] I think his supporters made decision in poor taste but it really doesn't really affect my view of him.[/quote] Ok photo op maybe not the worse thing but the banners are very insulting. And again, I seriously doubt it was just his supporters, and more likely his campaign because of what I stated before and the news is that it was a surprise visit to the wall. Also supporters banners are generally more amateur, which supplies are poster board and markers. Not $300+ four colour process banners. Edited July 24, 2008 by KnightofChrist
Mercy me Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Woah! Those were not supporters, that was the campaign. Supporters without the help of the campaign would not have had that type of material. They would have had handmade signs. But then again most of the time those handmade signs are made by the campaign since campaigns don't allow signs to be brought in to events. This was disgusting and I don't know why the Israelis tolerated it.
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1607314' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:43 AM']Take a deep breath, everyone. Obama is pandering to an important Democrat constituency, to wit, Jewish Americans. The issue is the pander, not that he's the "Anti-Christ." Let's not lose the run of ourselves.[/quote] I do not believe he is the Antichrist but he is an antichrist for his support of abortion holocaust.
kujo Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1607316' date='Jul 24 2008, 11:46 AM']Ok photo op maybe not the worse thing but the banners are very insulting. And again, I seriously doubt it was just his supporters, and more likely his campaign because of what I stated before and the news is that it was a surprise visit to the wall. Also support banners are generally more amateur, which supplies are poster board and markers. Not $300+ four colour process banners.[/quote] What if they purchased it from a website or something??
KnightofChrist Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1607320' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:51 AM']What if they purchased it from a website or something??[/quote] Purchased with words translated into Hebrew not likely at all.
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