Guest Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='saintwannabe 777' post='1866601' date='May 13 2009, 10:36 PM']Delivery, yo I appreciate it, but calm down. Christ wants us all to be bros and sistas. He is our Older Bro Yeshua and we should do well to not hate on each other. I appreciate you stickin up for me though.[/quote] Ok but Koc needs to chill and learn some charity. I dont know how anyone as selfrighteous as him can be church militant. Because Dust isnt about that. He is constanly on that croutons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 But, I would like to say something so everybody who views this post, hear me out. The reason why the Church is not unified, is because of this. By looking down on Protestants who got the grace for the first Charismatic wave, we seem snobbish. Some people are not open to Charismatic worship. Fine. I still love them. Some people are. Did not Jesus say look to the spirit of the law, not the letter. What if the priest praises Yeshua after consecration? Oh no! He praised Jesus? If we inhibit people from praising God, we become like pharisees. Padre Pio took three hours to do mass. People dissed him! When will we learn? Obviously this has limits, but if praise is offered within reason, why inhibit it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Resurrexi has to create new screenames because he offends everybody so bad with his first one. His old screenanme was tagged as dont rep the pope and he doesnt want anyone to know but yet he still spews out the same hate with his new screenname. It's a joke. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Yeshua Adonai Hamashiach Ben Elohi (Jesus, Lord, Messiah/God in the Flesh, Son of God) Come!!! Bind Your Church together, so the Gospel may be preached to all the nations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1866594' date='May 13 2009, 10:27 PM']Hey cuz dont worry about them 2. They both like to be haters and exercise no charity. It's a shame because they are both so knowlegable but yet they display no love. The pope has your back dont worry about 2 petty little haters.[/quote] I love you brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='saintwannabe 777' post='1866604' date='May 13 2009, 10:40 PM']But, I would like to say something so everybody who views this post, hear me out. The reason why the Church is not unified, is because of this. By looking down on Protestants who got the grace for the first Charismatic wave, we seem snobbish. Some people are not open to Charismatic worship. Fine. I still love them. Some people are. Did not Jesus say look to the spirit of the law, not the letter. What if the priest praises Yeshua after consecration? Oh no! He praised Jesus? If we inhibit people from praising God, we become like pharisees. Padre Pio took three hours to do mass. People dissed him! When will we learn? Obviously this has limits, but if praise is offered within reason, why inhibit it?[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1866610' date='May 13 2009, 10:46 PM']I love you brother.[/quote] Love you too my dude, I just hope you know where I'm coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1866610' date='May 13 2009, 10:46 PM']I love you brother.[/quote] I love you 2 but you are over self righteous and that's not how some1 with a church millitant tag should be acting. Why are you persecuting Saintwannabe777 and giving him a hard time ? Where is the love bro ????? Edited May 14, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I asked a question, and stated a fact. The Church has not officially to my knowledge approved the Charismatic movement. That is very important. I'm sorry that you are upset but I am none of the things you accuse me of being. I pray for everyone on this board every night. I in no way believe I am better than anyone, I am like St Paul chief of sinners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1866619' date='May 13 2009, 09:54 PM']I asked a question, and stated a fact. The Church has not officially to my knowledge approved the Charismatic movement. That is very important. I'm sorry that you are upset but I am none of the things you accuse me of being. I pray for everyone on this board every night. I in no way believe I am better than anyone, I am like St Paul chief of sinners.[/quote] Phamily you are persecuting saintwannabe777 and taking a selfrighteous attitude towards him. You are questioning the gifts he has recieved and talking down to him. Edited May 14, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1866619' date='May 13 2009, 10:54 PM']I asked a question, and stated a fact. The Church has not officially to my knowledge approved the Charismatic movement. That is very important. I'm sorry that you are upset but I am none of the things you accuse me of being. I pray for everyone on this board every night. I in no way believe I am better than anyone, I am like St Paul chief of sinners.[/quote] The Church has in no way approved... What!!! That is an extremely outlandish statement. I'm sorry thats just plain wrong. I will provide you with evidence. Starting with this. If the Church had not approved the Charismatic movement would Pope Paul VI have invited 10,000 Charismatics to Rome. Would Pope Benedict XVI invite a prominent Charismatic woman to be at the Pentecost Mass? Would many archdioesces have offices of the Renewal. The ICCRS is a group formed by the Holy See. I'm sorry that was an extreme statement, back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Pope John Paul II To Catholic Charismatics Seek to be active in life of your local Church Pope John Paul II, November 9, 1996 Dear Friends in Christ, 1. With affection in the Lord I greet the participants in the Seventh International Meeting of the Catholic Fraternity of Covenant Communities and Fellowships. I thank you for your good wishes and prayers at this time when I am celebrating the 50th Anniversary of my priestly ordination. I see this as an expression of the communion which links you with the Successor of Peter and the universal Church, a communion which you feel deeply and which itself is a sublime gift of the Holy Spirit to Christ's followers. You represent communities of the Charismatic Movement from around the world, which, in their variety, bear witness to the spiritual gifts which the Holy Spirit is bestowing on the Church even in our own day (cf. Christifideles laici, n. 24). How can we fail to praise God for the abundant fruit which in recent decades the Renewal in the Spirit has brought about in the lives of individuals and in communities? Countless people have come to appreciate the importance of Sacred Scripture for Christian living they have acquired a new sense of the value of prayer and a profound yearning for holiness, many have returned to the sacraments, and a great number of men and women have achieved a deeper understanding of their baptismal call, and have committed themselves to the Church's mission with admirable dedication. In thanking God for all of this, I repeat the words which I wrote in the Encyclical Letter Redemptoris missio: "As the third millennium of the Redemption draws near, God is preparing a great springtime for Christianity, and we can already see its first signs" (n. 86). 2. On 27 November 1995, the Catholic Fraternity received final recognition from the Pontifical Council for the Laity. By this official act the Church expressed appreciation of the Fraternity's goals and methods, and at the same time wished to strengthen your ecclesial identity. That identity requires you to be ever more fully associated with the life of the particular Churches. When ecclesial movements "humbly seek to become part of the life of local Churches and are welcomed by Bishops and priests within diocesan and parish structures, they represent a true gift of God both for new evangelization and for missionary activity properly so-called" (Redemptoris missio, n. 72). In order to help Pastors and the Charismatic Movement to work together in building up the Church of Christ, the Pontifical Council for the Laity is preparing a document which will serve as an important point of reference for the life and apostolate of such communities, and for the discernment of their spiritual gifts. Let us pray that this document will produce the good results which we expect from it! 3. Your Seventh International Meeting is reflecting on the theme of spiritual preparation for the Year 2000. "A Jubilee is always an occasion of special grace, 'a day blessed by the Lord'.... The Jubilee of the Year 2000 is meant to be a great prayer of praise and thanksgiving, especially for the gift of the Incarnation of the Son of God and of the Redemption which he accomplished" (Tertio millennio adveniente, n. 32). The Great Jubilee is not only a gift but also a demanding task. It calls for a great effort to respond to the pressing spiritual needs of our time. Because the whole Church must prepare for the Great Jubilee "in the Holy Spirit" (Dominum et Vivificantem, n. 51), I have suggested that the year 1998 be dedicated specifically to the Holy Spirit and his sanctifying presence in the ecclesial community (cf. Tertio millennio adveniente, nn. 44-48). It is my fervent hope that during that year all movements enlivened by the Spirit, who is the never-ending source of holiness and communion, will come together to bear joint witness to the unifying power of divine grace. 4. The Jubilee of the Year 2000 is above all a pressing invitation to all Christians to recommit themselves to holiness of life. True holiness does not mean a flight from the world; rather, it lies in the effort to incarnate the Gospel in everyday life, in the family, at school and at work, and in social and political involvement. Holiness is the fullness of life which Christ offers: he has come that we "may have life, and have it abundantly" (Jn 10:10). This is our marvellous vocation! Likewise, the approaching third millennium brings the urgent challenge of the new evangelization. True, it is not easy to proclaim the Gospel in a world which claims not to need God. Yet we are bound by the compelling words of St Paul: "Woe to me if I do not preach the Gospel" (1 Cor 9:16). Today, this proclamation must be accompanied by a commitment to ecumenism: "In these last years of the millennium, the Church should invoke the Holy Spirit with ever greater insistence, imploring from him the grace of Christian unity" (Tertio millennio adveniente, n. 34). In this perspective too, I wish to encourage your communities to a further strengthening of their ecclesial character, at the doctrinal level and in programs of formation, as the only sure basis for genuine ecumenical dialogue and action. 5. My dear brothers and sisters in Christ: again I thank you for all that you do in the service of the Church. Through the intercession of Mary, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, I entrust to Christ, the Lord of history, your spiritual journey towards the Great Jubilee of the Year 2000 and beyond. To each of you and your families, and to all the communities belonging to the Catholic Fraternity, I cordially impart my Apostolic Blessing. From the Vatican, 9 November 1996. IOANNES PAULUS PP. II Courtesy of Catholic Information Network, [url="http://www.cin.org"]http://www.cin.org[/url] This site Copyright © 1995-2001 Catholic Charismatic Center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Really, not approved? My bro come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 No sir I'm not. There use to be room for reasonable disagreement without being accused of such things. There are clear problems with the Charismatic movement, and I would remind people that this is a debate, because it is within the debate board. Thus far I have serious doubts that we can have a civil debate from reason, without it emotionally spiraling out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwannabe 777 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1866638' date='May 13 2009, 11:02 PM']No sir I'm not. There use to be room for reasonable disagreement without being accused of such things. There are clear problems with the Charismatic movement, and I would remind people that this is a debate, because it is within the debate board. Thus far I have serious doubts that we can have a civil debate from reason, without it emotionally spiraling out of control.[/quote] Alright, but did you see what I posted? You made a statement and I have evidence that contradicts it from JP the Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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