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IcePrincessKRS
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[quote name='QuoteMan' post='1944955' date='Aug 10 2009, 01:04 AM']Our Mom think everyone on this site it weird.... :mellow: Even *sniff*.....US! :sadder:[/quote]

The more I hear about your mother the more I like her.

Nihil Obstat
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The trick is to compromise a bit.

A cheap guitar is just that, cheap. You're not doing yourself any favours because it's going to limit how well you can actually learn.
Obviously buying an expensive guitar before you even know how to play is pretty dumb too.
Start with an entry level name brand and a simple amp. My suggestions would be a Squier Stratocaster (not Fender, they're more money), and an amp [u]without[/u] digital modelling.
Squier is the entry level company owned by Fender, so you can buy a 'real' Strat. The difference between that and a Fender Strat will be materials, and the factory it was made at. Fenders are made in Mexido or the US (American ones are about 33% more money), and Squiers are made in... Korea, I think. At one point they were made in Japan, and they were about as well made as the same Fenders of that era were, and as such are now considered rather uncommon collector's items. As an interesting side note, that's the white guitar I played before I got my Gretsch.
If you don't like the Stratocaster, which is downright silly, then Epiphone is the company that is owned by Gibson. I don't like Gibson's or Epiphones, because I learned on a Strat. I find Gibson/Epiphone frets way too large and cumbersome, and the fretboards have too much friction with the strings. A cool thing about Squier/Fender fretboards is the finish. It's very smooth.

Regarding amplifiers, I recommend not getting digital modelling effecs, and basically staying away from anything digital. That's because digital stuff breaks down easily. A good old simple amplifier sounds waaay better than anything you can do digitally. It sounds much more authentic, and has personality to it. Plus it won't break on you.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1944983' date='Aug 9 2009, 11:31 PM']The more I hear about your mother the more I like her.[/quote]
:annoyed:
I'm not allowing myself to get started on that subject. :detective:

IcePrincessKRS
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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1944987' date='Aug 10 2009, 01:34 AM']:annoyed:
I'm not allowing myself to get started on that subject. :detective:[/quote]
:unsure: Well, she's raised a couple of pretty cool sons, she can't be that bad.

Nihil Obstat
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Ooh, just realized I wasn't clear enough.

Squier or (God forbid) Epiphone are going to be somewhat more expensive than your typical starter kit guitar. In terms of entry level, they're at the top of the price range. Depending on where you look at on the starter kits you were looking at, this will be a difference of around $150-300, (300 is the VERY top end) but this price difference is well worth it.
As an entry level, you could play it for years and years. Some musicians actually prefer them for a variety of reasons.

Just starting out, this won't mean a lot to you, but you can find *great* guitars that happen to be 'entry level' Squiers and Strats. There are individual differences in guitars. Some are well made and some aren't as well made. The best ones will last forever. The very best guitars are less common in entry level price ranges, but they still exist. At least in Squier and Epiphone they do. Not really so much in the no name kinds of brands.

Also I'd highly recommend checking out Hagstrom guitars. They're rather hard to find, because most stores aren't licensed to deal them, but by almost all reviews they're among the highest quality for price guitars ever made.
Ebay has a few people that sell factory B stock, meaning there are asthetic flaws from manufacturing. Minor blemishes in the paint jobs. This doesn't affect playability, but it will drop the price $100-250.
These aren't really entry level, but it's possible to find a Hagstrom for around $300 if you're willing to play the auctions. They're also worth the extra money, but maybe not necessarily as your first guitar.

Nihil Obstat
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[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1944993' date='Aug 9 2009, 11:37 PM']:unsure: Well, she's raised a couple of pretty cool sons, she can't be that bad.[/quote]
:detective: :mellow:

Vincent Vega
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[quote name='QuoteMan' post='1944955' date='Aug 10 2009, 12:04 AM']Even *sniff*.....US! :sadder:[/quote]
She named me specifically? :(

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No.... She said the we're all oddballs....

Vincent Vega
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Then why did you specify "even US"?

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As in 'all of [b]us[/b]

not US as in USAirwaysIHS.... <_< *tsk

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Back to guitars....

I want this: [img]http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eb2009/JTKB200_BS_27_01.gif[/img]

It's an Ibanez Jet King Bass... :woot:

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Rexi, go find some sweet organs and link some real instruments for us :)

thanks.

Nihil Obstat
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Ibanez=kinda lame. Parental controls is blocking the picture, so it might be a less lame one, but a Fender Jazz (like dad's) or Fender Precision is waaay cooler.
Also Gretsch makes some of the nicest basses you'll ever see.

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ibanez maes some pretty sweet basses,but their guitars are killer!! huge fan. also ESP and schecter.

hmmm, this sexay beastwill one day be in my collection... drooooool
schecter c1 classic
[img]http://www.musiciansbuy.com/mmMBCOM/images/schecter_C1CLASSIC_TBLU.jpg[/img]

their gitars are actually very cheap for how awesome they are.
like a thousand dollar guitar.

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1945010' date='Aug 10 2009, 12:42 AM']Ooh, just realized I wasn't clear enough.

Squier or (God forbid) Epiphone are going to be somewhat more expensive than your typical starter kit guitar. In terms of entry level, they're at the top of the price range. Depending on where you look at on the starter kits you were looking at, this will be a difference of around $150-300, (300 is the VERY top end) but this price difference is well worth it.
As an entry level, you could play it for years and years. Some musicians actually prefer them for a variety of reasons.

Just starting out, this won't mean a lot to you, but you can find *great* guitars that happen to be 'entry level' Squiers and Strats. There are individual differences in guitars. Some are well made and some aren't as well made. The best ones will last forever. The very best guitars are less common in entry level price ranges, but they still exist. At least in Squier and Epiphone they do. Not really so much in the no name kinds of brands.

Also I'd highly recommend checking out Hagstrom guitars. They're rather hard to find, because most stores aren't licensed to deal them, but by almost all reviews they're among the highest quality for price guitars ever made.
Ebay has a few people that sell factory B stock, meaning there are asthetic flaws from manufacturing. Minor blemishes in the paint jobs. This doesn't affect playability, but it will drop the price $100-250.
These aren't really entry level, but it's possible to find a Hagstrom for around $300 if you're willing to play the auctions. They're also worth the extra money, but maybe not necessarily as your first guitar.[/quote]
oh, i was kind of confused there for a sec!

Nihil Obstat
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Hope I helped a bit. :)

Nihil Obstat
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Guitars are a special passion of mine. :yes:

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It's more of an obsession... :getaclue:

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