Skinzo Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Formosus' date='27 March 2010 - 08:27 PM' timestamp='1269757638' post='2081880'] I always thought these "great monarch" prophecies to be a little silly. I think the first its ever been mentioned was in the years following the Arab invasions of the Eastern Empire when a lot of apocalyptic literature started appearing, making claims about how a great Roman Emperor would come reestablish the Empire's boundaries and bring about an era of peace before the end of the world began. Admittedly, it sounds pretty cool (maybe would make a nice semi-historical fiction?) but its not a prophecy. These "great monarch" prophecies are just a form of escapism. [/quote] I'll keep an open mind on the "great monarch" prophecies, though at this point in time they do seem far fetched. Though there does seem to be a hint of the same in the authentic La Salette secrets that Rene Laurentin and Michel DeCorteville published in their book "Decouverte du secret de la Salette" in 2002. From Melanie Mathieu's secret: "A great king will go up on the throne, and will reign a few years. Religion will re-flourish and spread all over the world, and there will be a great abundance, the world, glad not to be lacking nothing, will fall again in its disorders, will give up God, and will be prone to its criminal passions." S. Edited March 28, 2010 by Skinzo
Jaime Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='27 March 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1269722078' post='2081502'] What specifically are you looking for next week that will confirm this in your own mind? [/quote] You would want to hit confession by thursday
Skinzo Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='28 March 2010 - 06:31 AM' timestamp='1269793899' post='2081983'] You would want to hit confession by thursday [/quote] I think he is referring to people like Ron Conte who claim the "Warning" announced at Garabandal (which is still not approved by the Church) is going to happen on this coming Good Friday, April 2.
Formosus Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 [quote name='Skinzo' date='28 March 2010 - 10:31 AM' timestamp='1269783086' post='2081916'] I'll keep an open mind on the "great monarch" prophecies, though at this point in time they do seem far fetched. Though there does seem to be a hint of the same in the authentic La Salette secrets that Rene Laurentin and Michel DeCorteville published in their book "Decouverte du secret de la Salette" in 2002. From Melanie Mathieu's secret: "A great king will go up on the throne, and will reign a few years. Religion will re-flourish and spread all over the world, and there will be a great abundance, the world, glad not to be lacking nothing, will fall again in its disorders, will give up God, and will be prone to its criminal passions." S. [/quote] I won't lie, I would like them to be true in some sense, but I still hold that the prophecies are a bit silly (or far fetched if you would prefer : p). As an easterner though, I think I will stick with the original formulation though, as a glorious restoration of a Christian Empire based in Constantinople (see when you say it that way it sounds silly right?).
Nihil Obstat Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Formosus' date='28 March 2010 - 06:19 PM' timestamp='1269818397' post='2082250'] I won't lie, I would like them to be true in some sense, but I still hold that the prophecies are a bit silly (or far fetched if you would prefer : p). As an easterner though, I think I will stick with the original formulation though, as a glorious restoration of a Christian Empire based in Constantinople (see when you say it that way it sounds silly right?). [/quote] If it's Tradition, then I'm behind you 110%.
Resurrexi Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='28 March 2010 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1269827594' post='2082327'] If it's Tradition, then I'm behind you 110%. [/quote] It is definitely not [b]T[/b]radition.
Nihil Obstat Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Resurrexi' date='28 March 2010 - 08:59 PM' timestamp='1269827999' post='2082328'] It is definitely not [b]T[/b]radition. [/quote] It's hard to keep track. I need to get farther along in my book.
Jaime Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Skinzo' date='28 March 2010 - 02:05 PM' timestamp='1269799520' post='2082029'] I think he is referring to people like Ron Conte who claim the "Warning" announced at Garabandal (which is still not approved by the Church) is going to happen on this coming Good Friday, April 2. [/quote] Yeah I think that's what he's trying to get at as well.
Skinzo Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='28 March 2010 - 08:39 PM' timestamp='1269844785' post='2082461'] Yeah I think that's what he's trying to get at as well. [/quote] That deserves a seperate thread. S.
Jaime Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 I don't think that's necessary. People are wondering what the general outcome is supposed to be with this. I'm not saying I buy any of it. I just don't like several months of build up with no punch line. Personally I think that there's a HUGE amount of holes in this theory. For example, obviously Conte and Kafka both are pulling in the Garabandal prophesies. I don't have an opinion on the Garabandal prophesies but if I think if you're going to weave them in, you can't pick and choose from the Garabandal visions. The visionaries talk about the Great Warning (apparently expected Friday) the Great Miracle and the Great Chastisement. But Kafka keeps talking about WWIII and WWIV which the visionaries at Garabandal say "there will be no more world wars". I haven't heard anybody argue why you can use part the visions but not all of them just because they don't work for you. That being said, anything that gets folks to confession during Holy Week is ok by me. If you think the Great Warning is going to happen (and apparently if it ever does, "wow does the Great Warning really smell of elderberries" doesn't come close to describing it) on Friday and that gets you to the sacrament, fantabulous!!
Socrates Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 The Amazing Conte on the Great Warning (to take place Good Friday this week!): http://www.catholicplanet.com/secrets/garabandal-warning.htm More incoherent and weird nonsense on that page than there is room to paste, but if you read all that and still take Conte seriously, there is something very wrong with you. If none of it comes to pass this year, and you still believe Conte, you are certifiably insane. (The page was updated Sept. 2009, but he's still not sure whether Hillary Clinton will be President at this time).
Jaime Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Everybody ok today? I didn't see anything about a Great Warning on the Today show...
MIKolbe Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 The only great warning i got today is if i leave my underwear and socks on the bedroom floor ONE MORE TIME, boy will i be in a mess of hurt.
Jaime Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='02 April 2010 - 09:54 AM' timestamp='1270216472' post='2085502'] The only great warning i got today is if i leave my underwear and socks on the bedroom floor ONE MORE TIME, boy will i be in a mess of hurt. [/quote] stellar response
Skinzo Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='02 April 2010 - 03:49 AM' timestamp='1270216149' post='2085499'] Everybody ok today? I didn't see anything about a Great Warning on the Today show... [/quote] Darn! Skunked again...and no Wapshuh either. Back to the drawing board for the great Conte...Any bets on how long the new Vatican commission will take to render a judgment on Medjugorje? S.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 [quote name='Skinzo' date='02 April 2010 - 11:59 AM' timestamp='1270227574' post='2085575'] Darn! Skunked again...and no Wapshuh either. Back to the drawing board for the great Conte...Any bets on how long the new Vatican commission will take to render a judgment on Medjugorje? S. [/quote] Didn't realize Conte was one of the Medjugorje (potential) visionaries.
infinitelord1 Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 maybe conte was wrong about the date. this is still all very interesting. have there ever been "prophets" who were accurate in their predictions? or did they just predict the inevitable? a good example of that would be the human race one day traveling to another solar system. thats going to be my prophecy..."within the next 1000 years, human beings will set foot on another planet in another solar system". people like jules verne were also good at these types of "prophecies" or predictions whatever you want to call them. hey you also have to consider that maybe we are not really in the year 2010...maybe its really like 2006 or something.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 [quote name='infinitelord1' date='03 April 2010 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1270272570' post='2085921'] maybe conte was wrong about the date. this is still all very interesting. have there ever been "prophets" who were accurate in their predictions? or did they just predict the inevitable? a good example of that would be the human race one day traveling to another solar system. thats going to be my prophecy..."within the next 1000 years, human beings will set foot on another planet in another solar system". people like jules verne were also good at these types of "prophecies" or predictions whatever you want to call them. hey you also have to consider that maybe we are not really in the year 2010...maybe its really like 2006 or something. [/quote] Better make it 10 000. You know, hedge your bets. That way you won't have to edit your website to eliminate embarrassing mistakes.
Skinzo Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='02 April 2010 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1270271971' post='2085914'] Didn't realize Conte was one of the Medjugorje (potential) visionaries. [/quote] Nihil, I wasn't saying that he was, only that his prediction that the "Warning" would occur on April 2 was wrong. S.
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