Occupy Wall Street Baloney

[BG45]

[quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1317910280' post='2316081']

Mayyybeeee.

Psh, Jon Stewart is news whether he likes it or not. He just throws in more language and slapstick stuffs and stops doing interviews with O'Reilly when people start taking him too seriously. It's quite noticeable, actually.

I just found out that they're hosting a satellite Occupy Wallstreet in my city this weekend. Alas, I'll be in Steubenville.
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Well good choice of quotes from her then, we'd not want to break Godwin's law the way she did.

And I agree, he definitely throws in more slapstick, but at the same time I think that's why our age bracket mostly watches him as a source of info, even if it's comedic in nature. He has an agenda sure, but he admits he doesn't want held to the same standards as professional journos. Which, to me at least, is better than MSNBC and Fox News (and at times CNN).

Steubie!!! Also, Huffington Post had a picture of buildings for each university that did a walk out protest in support of Occupy Wall Street;[url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/college-students-walk-out_n_996904.html#s390393&title=Indiana_University_of"] I work in the basement of the building they show five days a week as a grad assistant.[/url]

[Winchester]

They are idiots asking for more corporatism to defeat corporatism.

[Winchester]

Accuracy.

http://reason.com/archives/2011/10/05/occupy-wall-street-a-manifesto

[BG45]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/JvuYP.jpg[/img]

This is kinda why I do watch Jon Stewart for stuff like this. Fox doesn't seem to get this isn't about political parties.

[arfink]

Personally, I like the looks of the protests there. That people were willing to stand up to the corporations that way is impressive. What ticks me off is that both the GOP and DFL don't seem to understand what's going on.

[Winchester]

[quote name='arfink' timestamp='1317924263' post='2316379']
Personally, I like the looks of the protests there. That people were willing to stand up to the corporations that way is impressive. What ticks me off is that both the GOP and DFL don't seem to understand what's going on.
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Yes, stand up to the corporations in collusion with the State and demand more power be given to the state that used its power to empower the corporations.

Makes perfect sense.

[Winchester]

Yes, government will try to help you.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/10/the-illegal-private-bus-system-that-works/246166/

[IcePrincessKRS]

I agree that it's silly. Honestly, I don't think a lot of people are there for the same reasons or agree on why they are even "occupying." Matt was watching a youtube video of this guy interviewing different people along the way, some were saying they couldn't wait to get Obama out of office, some wanted him in, some talked about the cost of education, but none of them could really offer a well thought, concise reason of WHY they were there. They all just blubbered through the "Uh, and well I think, the people need to uh, blah, bring it to the people and make education more affordable, and uh, I hope Obama works on this in his next term. We need less violence and the Republicans are too violent." and when the guy pointed out all the violent things Obama has done that particular girl stopped talking to him.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1317923804' post='2316321']This is kinda why I do watch Jon Stewart for stuff like this. Fox doesn't seem to get this isn't about political parties.[/quote]

but they are being backed by unions and Democrats (many of them are). and now i can't find the link that talks about it. sorry!

[cooterhein]

[quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1317910280' post='2316081']Psh, Jon Stewart is news whether he likes it or not. He just throws in more language and slapstick stuffs and stops doing interviews with O'Reilly when people start taking him too seriously. It's quite noticeable, actually.

I just found out that they're hosting a satellite Occupy Wallstreet in my city this weekend. Alas, I'll be in Steubenville.
[/quote]I love the Daily Show! And I have to admit, Jon Stewart and his intrepid correspondents do more than any other "news team" to make me aware of the news. If it were on a 24 hr. news outlet, though, it would have to go in the "opinutainment" category rather than actual news.

Here's the thing, though, and I think Stew Beef is acutely aware of this at times- so much of what he does is predicated on effectively criticizing and undermining the work that's done by certain news outlets in both news and entertainment. There are times when some combination of his effectiveness and the things they're actually doing puts Stewart in a position where America sees his muses as wingnuts and him as the only sensible, moderate, Emmy-worthy broadcaster in the entire group. When it goes that far, he inevitably casts himself as a comedic monkey hurling feces from the sidelines while quietly appreciating the irony of his superior credibility. Then the newspersons back of the crazy a little bit while J Stew turns it up. It's a unique relationship that he has with them- most of the time, he works from the outside. But at the same time, he has the ability to exert significant influence on all major cable news networks simultaneously. No one else can do that. He's not anywhere, but then suddenly, he can be everywhere.

Edited October 6, 2011 by cooterhein

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1317930134' post='2316697']

but they are being backed by unions and Democrats (many of them are). and now i can't find the link that talks about it. sorry!
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Yeah, that's true. I know they are being backed by the teacher's union and a couple others. I can't remember which ones because I haven't been paying that close attention, I just hear whatever news Matt is watching behind me.

[LaPetiteSoeur]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1317861112' post='2315840']
Apparently they are in Chicago as well:

[url="http://occupychi.org/"]http://occupychi.org/[/url]
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There's talk about one in NOLA this weekend, too.

[BG45]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1317930134' post='2316697']

but they are being backed by unions and Democrats (many of them are). and now i can't find the link that talks about it. sorry!
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No problem! They're being backed by everyone almost if you use that definition though of groups showing up to offer support. [url="http://imgur.com/GmSFY"]Veterans [/url]are marching on Wall Street, therefore Occupy Wall Street is backed by [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBbHE5IIrxs"]veterans[/url]. [url="http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20110929/FINANCE/110929865"]Union [/url]members are marching on Wall Street, therefore unions back Occupy Wall Street. Democrats are marching on Wall Street, therefore Democrats back Occupy Wall Street. [url="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/185081-paul-offers-support-for-anti-fed-occupy-wall-street-protestors"]Republicans [/url]are marching on Wall Street, therefore [url="http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/43730"]Republicans [/url]back Occupy Wall Street.

The organizers have actively been turning down donations of money and are instead asking for donations of warm clothes for the winter. Also in one story that was pretty interesting to me to come out of it, a Democrat and a Republican, both city council members, decided to go look at it for themselves and ended up running into each other [url="http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/10/3610734/democrat-and-republican-walk-occupy-wall-street-demonstration-have-d"]and holding a supposedly impromptu civil debate in the streets.[/url] The Democrats would be stupid not to embrace the chance this has handed them on a silver platter, [url="http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-tap-into-occupy-wall-street-protests-attack-republicans-for-bank-ties-2011-10"]which they have begun to.[/url] At the same time, I'd be wary if [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/why-occupy-wall-street-and-democrats-arent-natural-allies/2011/10/05/gIQAYuvyNL_blog.html"]I were them to think of Occupy Wall Street as allies[/url], the protesters are just as angry at them as they are anyone else.

Apologies for no link to the word Democrats in the first paragraph; all I could find was people going on left wing news sites "we need to hop on the bandwagon now that they got it rolling" and right wing news sites claiming it's all a big conspiracy by the Democrats.

Edit: Every link leads to a different video, picture, or news article. My question is, will the Occupy Wall Street movement become the left wing equivalent of the Tea Party? If in youtube videos, none of them are very educated about why they are there, or are mistaken about historical facts, then it sounds exactly like the Tea Party rally I attended to see if it lived up to the liberal propaganda about it, and it did.

Edited October 6, 2011 by BG45

[Winchester]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMYicq_SN1E

[Lil Red]

the link I was talking about was an in-depth link about how the Occupy Wall Street group was founded last year and is funded by George Soros. geez, i wish i could find it. i'm going searching, brb.

[BG45]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1317933893' post='2316739']
the link I was talking about was an in-depth link about how the Occupy Wall Street group was founded last year and is funded by George Soros. geez, i wish i could find it. i'm going searching, brb.
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Which still wouldn't be that unsurprising. Nor would I be surprised if it turned around and bit the hand that fed it like the Tea Party did to the GOP where they started threatening John Boehner politically if he didn't do as they demanded.

Edit: If you do find it, feel free to post it. I'm trying to take the middle ground of "wait and see". Even if Soros originally backed it, I think the internet has made it take on a life all its own. Reddit continues to be a nice source of stuff on it from both sides; but due to certain scandalous material I'm never linking directly there.

Edit2: Red would this be the link? [url="http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9269-big-soros-money-linked-to-occupy-wall-street"]Big Soros Money Linked to "Occupy Wall Street[/url]".

Edited October 6, 2011 by BG45

[Lil Red]

aha! [url="http://adriennescatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2011/10/whos-funding-bunch-of-losers-to-sit.html"]here's[/url] where i found [url="http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2011/10/faces-of-occupy-wall-street-moms.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FCnSK+%28JammieWearingFool%29&utm_content=Google+Reader"]this link[/url]. I misspoke, it wasn't started last year. My bad!
[quote]A bootcamp for social change? Critics have no clue what's happening? Uh, we know exactly what's happening: A failed effort being engineered by Obama and his Occupier Democrats to distract us from his abysmal record and myriad scandals.

It's not working. It would be nice instead of slobbering over these nitwits that the media did a little digging into [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/05/2011-10-05_big_money_in_wall_st_protest_cash_coming_in_from_around_the_world.html"]who's funding this[/url].
[quote]Internet pledges arrive via two main websites: occupywallst.org was registered July 14, two months before the demonstrations began, by a Los Angeles privacy service that shields the owner's identity.


The second, nycga.cc, was registered Sept. 11 by Brooklyn resident Vladimir Teichberg, records show.

The Alliance for Global Justice, a nonprofit with 501c3 status, helped Occupy Wall Street to collect tax-exempt donations and open a credit union account to centralize funds.

The Washington-based organization's most recent 2009 tax return has revenues of $843,547, including contributions and grants of $789,509, records show.[/quote]

Alliance for Global Justice, huh? Funny, but 10 seconds of research leads us directly to none of than [url="http://www.undueinfluence.com/open_society_institute.htm"]George Soros[/url] and his Open Society Institute. These folks also show solidarity with Marxist regimes in [url="http://afgj.org/?page_id=560"]Nicaragua and Venezuela[/url]. But remember, this is just some spontaneous grassroots movement in response to the Tea Party or something.[/quote]

[Socrates]

Socialist crybabies need to grow up and get a life.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1317912929' post='2316119']
They are idiots asking for more corporatism to defeat corporatism.
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[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1317913049' post='2316120']
Accuracy.

[url="http://reason.com/archives/2011/10/05/occupy-wall-street-a-manifesto"]http://reason.com/ar...eet-a-manifesto[/url]
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Geez, Winchester, why must you always insist on spoiling all the fun by throwing sanity and reason into the discussion?

[Socrates]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1317908532' post='2316065']

Holy moly, it's either a testament to me being tired last night or the state of news media in America that I called Jon Stewart "news" when even he admits he's just a comedian! But agreed, the Daily Show rocks!

...and did you just quote Ann Coulter from the other night? o.o
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Speaking of Ann Coulter (whom I'm well aware that most phatmassers regard as essentially Satan incarnate), her commentary on this nonsense is spot-on as usual:
"No one knows what the Wall Street protesters want -- as is typical of mobs. They say they want Obama re-elected, but claim to hate "Wall Street." You know, the same Wall Street that gave its largest campaign donation in history to Obama, who, in turn, bailed out the banks and made Goldman Sachs the fourth branch of government.

This would be like opposing fattening, processed foods, but cheering Michael Moore -- which the protesters also did this week."

Full article [url="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46667"]here[/url].