Aya Sophia Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I second the motion of this thread. We need more [b]Marigold/Orthodox mon [/b]and [b]Nunsense[/b]/[b]Benedictines[/b] Nunsense, how about warming up your Colwich thread and, Marigold, how about a thread on your Orthodox monastery - no, we don't need to know the name of it - I'm sure folks here would be fascinated to hear about the traditions in Orthodox monastic life (and your personal experiences, for ex. the sweet story you told me about the former tenant of your cell who left little souvenirs in her prayer corner).
linnie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1319420049' post='2325956'] Sounds like its time for a Benedictine take over of VS. [/quote]
bmb144 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I can talk about the Tyburn Benedictine nuns till I go blue in the face. Having been writing to them for 6 years now....is it really that long I know a bit about them these days and they are always happy to ask answer questions. There is also a former Tyburn nun here *pokes her*
Nunsense Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Aya Sophia' timestamp='1319420762' post='2325961'] Nunsense, how about warming up your Colwich thread and, Marigold, how about a thread on your Orthodox monastery - no, we don't need to know the name of it - I'm sure folks here would be fascinated to hear about the traditions in Orthodox monastic life (and your personal experiences, for ex. the sweet story you told me about the former tenant of your cell who left little souvenirs in her prayer corner). [/quote] Well, last time I posted on that thread, only two people responded. And at the time i could have used a little support for what I was going through at work, so I figured that no one was interested in what I was doing anymore. It's probably a case of too many times maybe like the boy who cried wolf? Anyway, no one could post more info about Colwich than Adele (Sr Marie Therese) did during her time with them... her blog is fantastic, even to read again today. And since I haven't even visited them yet, how can I comment on anything about them? My interactions have all be positive so far, and I do have friends who have been there and say nice things about them, but I can only say that I am praying and hoping that this time will be a stayer!
OnlySunshine Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1319420049' post='2325956'] Sounds like its time for a Benedictine take over of VS. [/quote] I remember when PuellaPaschalis used to try to take over VS with her talk of Benedictines. It never seemed to work. In all seriousness, I just didn't understand the Benedictine charism like I do now. I appreciate them more than I did before, even if I am not called there. Heck, I have a friend who just became a Benedictine postulant last month.
bmb144 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote] I remember when PuellaPaschalis used to try to take over VS with her talk of Benedictines. It never seemed to work [/quote] Maybe its time to try again....*picks up Benedictine office book and runs into the fray*
OnlySunshine Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1319421974' post='2325977'] Maybe its time to try again....*picks up Benedictine office book and runs into the fray* [/quote]
Nunsense Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1319421798' post='2325972'] I remember when PuellaPaschalis used to try to take over VS with her talk of Benedictines. It never seemed to work. In all seriousness, I just didn't understand the Benedictine charism like I do now. I appreciate them more than I did before, even if I am not called there. Heck, I have a friend who just became a Benedictine postulant last month. [/quote] I have had to ovecome my own negative feelings about Benedictines too. I used to equate all of them with the 'rebel nuns' and wondered why they supported Sr Joan Chittister and and Sandra Schneider who seemed to be defiant of the Vatican. But then once upon a time I couldn't even say the name 'Jesus without cringing since I had problems with Evangelical Christians and their proseltysing. Now the name of Jesus warms my heart and fills me with love. In a similar way, I have learned to discern the Benedictines who are 'doing their own thing' and those who have always been faithful and obedient to the magesterium. I was very intolerant, tarring all Benedictines with the same brush... I think that it has taught me a lesson about not judging communities without first-hand information, or at least very well founded information. I suppose one could say that I am judging Srs Chittister and Schneiders but there I am going on what they have spoken and written, and I disagree with their points of view, so my opinion (although it is my own and therefore subject to dissent from others) is as well founded as I can make it without actually speaking to these sisters. With Benedictines, they have been around so long and there are so many different communities that they can't be considered as realtively homogenous as Carmelites are. Also, Benedictines are not as strictly enclosed, so they have been influenced by the world they live in - perhaps a bit more than the Carmelites who have been a very insular institution over the years. This is changing now but it is only fairly recently that they have had so much contact with the world. We might benefit from hearing DigitalDame's input on Benedictines as she has first hand experience as one for many years!
brandelynmarie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1319421974' post='2325977'] Maybe its time to try again....*picks up Benedictine office book and runs into the fray* [/quote] It's a Bennie Invasion!
Chiquitunga Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1319419499' post='2325950'] Seriously Chica - didn't you read the title of this thread? [/quote] [quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1319418726' post='2325941'] I am all for Carmelizing of just about anything [/quote] Really? Even .. a tarantula! okay, I refrained from posting a picture, but you can look it up Speaking of though .. I know a funny story of a Prioress (not Iron Mt./Buffalo nor Valp or Elys.) who sometimes puts a fake, but very real looking, tarantula between the double grilles in their parlor when speaking to guests! I think this is very much in the spirit of St. Teresa .. you know the quote Lord, deliver us from sullen faced saints! Am I caramelizing this thread enough?
OnlySunshine Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1319422352' post='2325985'] I have had to ovecome my own negative feelings about Benedictines too. I used to equate all of them with the 'rebel nuns' and wondered why they supported Sr Joan Chittister and and Sandra Schneider who seemed to be defiant of the Vatican. But then once upon a time I couldn't even say the name 'Jesus without cringing since I had problems with Evangelical Christians and their proseltysing. Now the name of Jesus warms my heart and fills me with love. In a similar way, I have learned to discern the Benedictines who are 'doing their own thing' and those who have always been faithful and obedient to the magesterium. I was very intolerant, tarring all Benedictines with the same brush... I think that it has taught me a lesson about not judging communities without first-hand information, or at least very well founded information. I suppose one could say that I am judging Srs Chittister and Schneiders but there I am going on what they have spoken and written, and I disagree with their points of view, so my opinion (although it is my own and therefore subject to dissent from others) is as well founded as I can make it without actually speaking to these sisters. With Benedictines, they have been around so long and there are so many different communities that they can't be considered as realtively homogenous as Carmelites are. Also, Benedictines are not as strictly enclosed, so they have been influenced by the world they live in - perhaps a bit more than the Carmelites who have been a very insular institution over the years. This is changing now but it is only fairly recently that they have had so much contact with the world. We might benefit from hearing DigitalDame's input on Benedictines as she has first hand experience as one for many years! [/quote] I know exactly what you mean. I was also very distraught over hearing about Joan Chittister's POV, so it was affecting my view of Benedictine life. I thank the websites of the Benedictines of Mary and the other beautifully habited Benedictines for helping me overcome that negative outlook and not paint them with the same brush. I mean, when faced with a picture like this, what's not to like? [img]http://www.wdtprs.com/images/10_05_15_Benedictines_04.JPG[/img]
bmb144 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 For me, part of the attraction is the significant differences in how certain members of the Benedictine family live the charism. There is a sense of variety even within communities like the Tyburn nuns for example due to the cultural differences between the foundations. I personally like that. As to certain 'rebel nuns'....well I simply leave them to God. After 6 years of pretty in depth letters I hope I know what a Benedictine is and after I get down there, I will know more.
Aya Sophia Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Chiquitunga' timestamp='1319422772' post='2325997'] I know a funny story of a Prioress (not Iron Mt./Buffalo nor Valp or Elys.) who sometimes puts a fake, but very real looking, tarantula between the double grilles in their parlor when speaking to guests! I think this is very much in the spirit of St. Teresa .. you know the quote Lord, deliver us from sullen faced saints! [/quote] Think I need to add "fake tarantula" to my trousseau list for Carmel!
Pax_et bonum Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 But we all know Franciscans rule over all the earth. Come to the [s]dark[/s] Franciscan side! (as other posters have said ) I spent the whole day with Franciscans
brandelynmarie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Chiquitunga' timestamp='1319422772' post='2325997'] Really? Even .. a tarantula! okay, I refrained from posting a picture, but you can look it up Speaking of though .. I know a funny story of a Prioress (not Iron Mt./Buffalo nor Valp or Elys.) who sometimes puts a fake, but very real looking, tarantula between the double grilles in their parlor when speaking to guests! I think this is very much in the spirit of St. Teresa .. you know the quote Lord, deliver us from sullen faced saints! Am I caramelizing this thread enough? [/quote] Yes, you are carmelizing this thread quite well!
brandelynmarie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Pax_et bonum' timestamp='1319423425' post='2326006'] But we all know Franciscans rule over all the earth. Come to the [s]dark[/s] Franciscan side! (as other posters have said ) I spent the whole day with Franciscans [/quote] I hear the [s]dark [/s]Franciscan side has cookies, I could possibly be swayed... . Edited October 24, 2011 by brandelynmarie
bmb144 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 [quote] But we all know Franciscans rule over all the earth. Come to the [s]dark[/s] Franciscan side! [/quote] But.....but.....Benedictines have better cookies....*lures all to cookies*
brandelynmarie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Maybe there should be a community bake-off...altho for many of us a [i]bake sale [/i]would be more appropos! Edited October 24, 2011 by brandelynmarie
she_who_is_not Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Forget cookies, Benedictines have wine. In the rule.
brandelynmarie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Cookies & wine??? Hmmmm....now I am seriously tempted .
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