marigold Posted August 13, 2015 Author Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) prayers for you marigold Praying for you, Marigold ! We will miss you ! Thanks, peeps. I won't be totally gone Edited August 13, 2015 by marigold
marigold Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 Hi everyone! I just popped in to see how everyone is, and thought I'd let you know that I decided to stay at the community and am officially a novice. Unfortunately that means paperwork, so I'm out of the monastery for several weeks, getting my documents in order. It's a pain, but on the upside I can while away some time on VS, and I even have pocket money for chocolate
NadaTeTurbe Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Wow ! It's such a big news ! Prayers for you, Marigold, I hope you'll peresevere ! Would ou agree to told us wich community it is ?
marigold Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 Wow ! It's such a big news ! Prayers for you, Marigold, I hope you'll peresevere ! Would ou agree to told us wich community it is ? Non! I don't think that would bring any benefit at this moment in time. Thank you very much for the good wishes
Jennifer Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 What lovely news..................many prayers for you at this time Marigold.
vee Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Congrats marigold! May I ask what the stages of formation are and roughly how long each one is? (I hope they feed you chocolate there too!)
Charbel Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I've been wondering where you went, marigold! This brings me much joy, I will continue praying for you and the community you have decided to discern with Deo Gratias!
:o)Katherine:o) Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Marigold, it is so good to hear from you! How exciting! Continued prayers as you venture on to this part of your discernment journey!
Luigi Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 A new novice! (Is that redundant?) Go in peace to love and serve the Lord. Prayers for you as you go into this phase of your life.
littlesister Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 We're all behind you, Marigold! Blessings and best wishes, and keep the pham posted as you are able to.
marigold Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 Thank you, lovely people @Luigi, I get around that by saying 'baby novice' to distinguish from more growed-up ones. Gross? Yes. Practical? Very!
marigold Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) @vee you're a novice for around three years, depending on what the person needs. After that, you are tonsured (a teensy bit of hair is cut from 4 points on your head to form a cross) and you receive a black robe to wear in church on top of your habit. It's understood as a commitment to monastic life, though you don't make any vows. Then several years down the line, when you, your abbess and your confessor believe you are ready to make the leap with no turning back, you make vows, are tonsured again and receive the rest of the habit (usually mantle, outer head covering, and schema, a garment which looks kind of like a scapular and signifies death and resurrection in Christ). Thats the readers digest version, anyway Edited November 10, 2015 by marigold
NadaTeTurbe Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Is it possible for someone to never make vow ?
vee Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 @vee you're a novice for around three years, depending on what the person needs. After that, you are tonsured (a teensy bit of hair is cut from 4 points on your head to form a cross) and you receive a black robe to wear in church on top of your habit. It's understood as a commitment to monastic life, though you don't make any vows. Then several years down the line, when you, your abbess and your confessor believe you are ready to make the leap with no turning back, you make vows, are tonsured again and receive the rest of the habit (usually mantle, outer head covering, and schema, a garment which looks kind of like a scapular and signifies death and resurrection in Christ). Thats the readers digest version, anyway Interesting, thanks for sharing. Prayers as you continue on the journey.
marigold Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 Is it possible for someone to never make vow ? It's possible, but not common at all. I believe that people have sometimes stayed novices their whole lives out of humility, but in such cases it might have been seen a little bit like a charismatic gift, or a 'vocation within a vocation'... And we are so worldly and spiritually poor these days in comparison anyway, that something like that is probably beyond most of us. We just want the long robes and the greetings in the marketplace... Sigh.
Mags Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 It's possible, but not common at all. I believe that people have sometimes stayed novices their whole lives out of humility, but in such cases it might have been seen a little bit like a charismatic gift, or a 'vocation within a vocation'... And we are so worldly and spiritually poor these days in comparison anyway, that something like that is probably beyond most of us. We just want the long robes and the greetings in the marketplace... Sigh. I know nothing of Orthodox monasticism so this is new to me, please forgive my ignorance. You are right about humility, it is all to easy to think of the stages as something to get through. We can learn much from this attitude.
marigold Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 Interesting, thanks for sharing. Prayers as you continue on the journey. PS and yes, we do get chocolate! I don't know that we'd get through certain times without it
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