Is It Wrong For Men To Be Shirtless In The Presence Of Women?

[arfink]

I like the tie. Is that you?

 

Yes.

[Nihil Obstat]

It is a good look. :like: I wish we guys in general dressed up more. It is too easy to just get by with the bare minimum. Pun intended, I guess.

[arfink]

It is a good look. :like: I wish we guys in general dressed up more. It is too easy to just get by with the bare minimum. Pun intended, I guess.

 

I wore that to a job interview.

[Ice_nine]

I hate dressing up. Would rather stick toothpicks under my toenails and kick a wall.

 

 

<-- gem sweaters ftw!!!

Edited May 1, 2013 by Ice_nine

[Nihil Obstat]

I hate dressing up. Would rather stick toothpicks under my toenails and kick a wall.

 

 

<-- gem sweaters ftw!!!

 

 

How you doin'?

[Ice_nine]

nihil please, I'm trying to avoid the near occasion of sin and you come at me with that? Not fair

[Nihil Obstat]

Hey, one just cannot keep something like this to oneself. The joy is meant to be shared.

 

[Nihil Obstat]

Well, in that one there's other stuff going on. In the one I posted Mary Magdalene (who was, at the time, widely believed to be a woman of ill repute) takes up 90% of the portrait and is giving "the gaze" to the viewer. She's beautiful, don't get me wrong. But I question the intent of that portrait.

Actually you will find similar aspects in that one I posted. In fact it apparently caused quite the stir when it was first unveiled. It is considered to be explicitly sensual. Now, that does not mean immodest or pornographic or unchaste, but certainly there is a sexual aspect. And I think that is ok, really. Men and women are sexual creatures, and I certainly think that art can, and should, licitly depict that.

[TheLordsSouljah]

Hey, one just cannot keep something like this to oneself. The joy is meant to be shared.

 

I don't care how artistic the nanny who made that thought it is. That should be hung on a wall. Not worn.

If anything was fit to be called gay, I think it would be that.

[Gabriela]

First of all, which crucifix in Sagrada Familia? There are at least 3 I know of, and I don't think any of them count as intentionally lustful, unless I'm missing something rather critical here... one of them is quite brutalist and hideous, but not lustful. You'd need to be smoking some serious dope to think lustfully over this:

 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3365/3257684126_b4a6f016a9_o.jpg

(linked because hideous and modernist YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - CANNOT BE UNSEEN)

 

And secondly, as an artist I can 100% assure you it is possible to make art that is all about sexing it up. No arguments from me there. :P I personally see it as something which cheapens an artist's work and am always deeply disappointed when an artist does it. As for that example you linked there, I think it's in a gray area. For the time, probably pretty scandalous, but then I don't think the artist was trying to make something you were supposed to lust after. The only reason I can say that is in my studies of art history I have been afforded some looks into, uh, period erotica. This is very different from the stuff they made for erotic purposes back then.  I can sorta see what you mean by her giving "the come-hither look" and so on. It's definitely there. Would I be comfortable painting such a thing? Probably not. Could it be a legitimate subject matter? I think so.

 

I was referring to the crucifix at the back of the church, outside, the one all the tour books describe as "the boner crucifix". (Sorry.)

[jeffboom]

Quite honestly, I'd never be caught dead in a pair.  I have some friends who love them, and in general it's an interesting question. 

 

 

They're cool if you like shorts with a 5'' inseam...

[jeffboom]

Speedos should be banned. 

 

Speedos are the only type of swimwear I own. 

[CatholicsAreKewl]

Speedos are the only type of swimwear I own. 

He is not kidding.

[jeffboom]

He is not kidding.

 

Based on a T.R.U. story.

[Papist]

I don't believe men should go around shirtless period....but more so in the presence of women. When I dress, I do not think to myself, will I be in the presence of a woman today. I simply dress modest to be modest.

[CrossCuT]

ROFL! funniest thread title ever. :hehe:

Agreed

 

Hey, one just cannot keep something like this to oneself. The joy is meant to be shared.

 

I dont know how to explain what I am feeling after seeing this

[EmilyAnn]

I simply dress modest to be modest.

This is how modesty threads should be.

[MIKolbe]

It is incredibly wrong for me to be shirtless in the presence of women.

 

wrong, cruel, disgusting... take your pick.

[CrossCuT]

:console:

[arfink]

I was referring to the crucifix at the back of the church, outside, the one all the tour books describe as "the boner crucifix". (Sorry.)

 

Have you actually seen it? Because I have tried for over an hour now to find photos of it, and I can't find anything.

 

I even went so far as to open up Google maps and take a trip around the block, virtually, looking at it from every angle. Google also finds photos of the building and hovers icons there, which you can pop open to see other people's photos of what you are looking at. The back side of the church is almost completely blank, and has no figural carving at all. The only crucifix on the outside is the one I showed a picture of. Are you sure you're thinking of the right church?

 

Take a look at what I mean:

 

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sagrada+Familia,+Barcelona,+Spain&hl=en&ll=41.404147,2.174024&spn=0.001288,0.00327&sll=46.44186,-93.36129&sspn=9.631618,26.784668&oq=sagrada+familia&hq=Sagrada+Familia,+Barcelona,+Spain&radius=15000&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=41.403999,2.173827&panoid=B2N8TOf4Wd5pcFOwd2BU6A&cbp=12,145.34,,0,-21.19

 

Edited May 1, 2013 by arfink