jp2_rules Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jul 9 2005, 05:07 AM']I like them both, but I prefer Star Trek. Happy 40th birthday Star Trek (1966-2006). [right][snapback]637088[/snapback][/right] [/quote] uhhhh, it's only 2005.
Loveablechick Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 I have never see star trek so I'm goin' with star wars.
Apotheoun Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='jp2_rules' date='Jul 10 2005, 01:37 PM']uhhhh, it's only 2005. [right][snapback]638579[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Well, it's such a monumental event that it needs more than a year to celebrate. "We are one big happy fleet." Khan Noonian Singh (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan)
Didacus Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='reelguy227' date='Jul 10 2005, 11:38 AM']Star Wars is winning ,yet again !! I guess its the best , . [right][snapback]638377[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Truth is not determined by a majority vote....
Didacus Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jul 11 2005, 07:32 AM']Well, it's such a monumental event that it needs more than a year to celebrate. "We are one big happy fleet." Khan Noonian Singh (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan) [right][snapback]639231[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Let the party begin!!!! "From hell's hot, I spit my last breath at thee..." Khan Noonian Singh (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, the best of all Star Trek AND Star Wars movies....! (compared to Star Trek... Star Wars is just a cartoon for kids....)
Apotheoun Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Star Trek will eventually win; after all, "Resistance is futile!"
Didacus Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jul 11 2005, 07:52 AM']Star Trek will eventually win; after all, "Resistance is futile!" [right][snapback]639240[/snapback][/right] [/quote] The majority vote might not be desireable in this voting thread. i believe that preference of Star Wars over Star Trek is in direct proportion to the maturity level of the voter multiplied by the factor k. (K = general knowledge of science and feasability towards realistic future). The maturity level is seen as the characters in Star Trek are far more developped and deep, whereas in Star Wars they are simple charicatures of wannabe heroes and villains that appeal to dreamy younger audiences. A mature man/woman of knowledge will recongnize the nuances behind the characters within the context of their struggles when enjoying StarTrek. The knowledge level is evident to anyone with a grade 10 physics class. Star Wars has almost no basis of science fiction other than the neat 'booms' and 'crashes' of ship and lasers. Where Star Trek bases its fundamental futuristic 'technology' on real history, science and theories. Even the terminology is present and can be researched and proven accurate within Star Trek episodes, and thus they serve as eductaional tools as well. It is thus obvious in this poll that those with a combination of maturity and knowledge of science are in the minority in this forum, and nothing else is proven. toodaloo....
robguitar Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Star Trek. Especially the Original Series and Deep Space Nine.
DemonSlayer Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 I voted Star Wars, I also like a bit of Enterprise.
reelguy227 Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='Didacus' date='Jul 11 2005, 08:24 AM']The majority vote might not be desireable in this voting thread. i believe that preference of Star Wars over Star Trek is in direct proportion to the maturity level of the voter multiplied by the factor k. (K = general knowledge of science and feasability towards realistic future). The maturity level is seen as the characters in Star Trek are far more developped and deep, whereas in Star Wars they are simple charicatures of wannabe heroes and villains that appeal to dreamy younger audiences. A mature man/woman of knowledge will recongnize the nuances behind the characters within the context of their struggles when enjoying StarTrek. The knowledge level is evident to anyone with a grade 10 physics class. Star Wars has almost no basis of science fiction other than the neat 'booms' and 'crashes' of ship and lasers. Where Star Trek bases its fundamental futuristic 'technology' on real history, science and theories. Even the terminology is present and can be researched and proven accurate within Star Trek episodes, and thus they serve as eductaional tools as well. It is thus obvious in this poll that those with a combination of maturity and knowledge of science are in the minority in this forum, and nothing else is proven. toodaloo.... [right][snapback]639252[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Do you have some sort of point making others feel like carp because they are uneducated and to stupid to like Star Trek ???? :angry: Star Wars is fantasy ,fantasy of course isnt going to be real . NEITHER IS ALIEN !! Movies are movies ,they are not meant to be based on reality ,otherwise they wouldnt be called movies . If you dont like Star Wars not being factual ,go see a documentary or better yet , a movie based on a true story !!!!! -_- toodaloo..
Didacus Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='reelguy227' date='Jul 11 2005, 02:34 PM']Do you have some sort of point making others feel like carp because they are uneducated and to stupid to like Star Trek ???? :angry: [snip] [right][snapback]639695[/snapback][/right] [/quote] None whatsoever, just trying to see if there's fire in the mix... I guess its not so bad, for so long as its just a feeling.... sorry nonetheless... [quote name='reelguy227' date='Jul 11 2005, 02:34 PM'][snip] Star Wars is fantasy ,fantasy of course isnt going to be real . NEITHER IS ALIEN !! Movies are movies ,they are not meant to be based on reality ,otherwise they wouldnt be called movies . If you dont like Star Wars not being factual ,go see a documentary or better yet , a movie based on a true story !!!!! -_- toodaloo.. [right][snapback]639695[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Star Trek is also fantasy... but what sets a movie apart from the others? 1. recognizing one's self 2. Learning a moral? 3. Expanding one's mind? 4. Inspiring the audience towards something greater than they are? Star Trek accomplishes these things to a greater extent than Star Wars.... -_- toodaloo..
reelguy227 Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Star Trek cant be real anyways , travelling at the speed of light is impossible .
Paladin D Posted July 11, 2005 Author Posted July 11, 2005 [quote name='Didacus' date='Jul 11 2005, 03:45 PM']Star Trek is also fantasy... but what sets a movie apart from the others? 1. recognizing one's self 2. Learning a moral? 3. Expanding one's mind? 4. Inspiring the audience towards something greater than they are? Star Trek accomplishes these things to a greater extent than Star Wars.... -_- toodaloo.. [right][snapback]639708[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That is your opinion, and your opinion alone. Many would say Star Wars does a better job inspiring the audience towards something greater than they are (Luke, a farmboy, grows up and saves the universe is one example). There is so many emotional and moral messages in Star Wars, especially with Anakin/Vader, about the story of Anakin's fall and his salvation at the end. If you want to know which is more culturally-impacting and inspiring, just look at pop-culture. Star Wars is a phenomenon. A 100 years from now, kids will still be hearing about a story that took place a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Not only has Star Wars impacted and changed the film industry in a big way (ILM is a prime example), it also changed the lives of countless millions. It's a modern-day classic, a "space opera", a place where kids can dream of. I enjoy watching Star Trek: The Next Generation from time to time, but I doubt people would be reading Trek novels in the same light as a fantasy genre. While with Star Wars, it has the pleasure to be under both sci-fi [b]and[/b] fantasy genres. Which one do you think kids would enjoy as bedtime stories, about a 100 years from now?
Paladin D Posted July 11, 2005 Author Posted July 11, 2005 I want to know the Trekkies' comments on this: William Shatner sung to George Lucas at the AFI's Life Achievement Awards (forced by stormtroopers mind you). They had two hours about George Lucas' accomplishments, and William Shatner was the first one on stage to congradulate him. A major Star Trek star, at a Star Wars event. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/PaladinD/afi-shatner.jpg[/img] I'll be posting the video in a moment.
reelguy227 Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Nice defense of Star Wars Paladin D ,nice defense !!!
Apotheoun Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 To all those Star Wars fans out there, "You will be assimilated!"
White Knight Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) If you ask the general public people who aren't normally Fantasy and or Science Fiction Fans. They'd most likely pick Star Wars, Star Wars is easier to get into, it has some more interesting areas, than Star Trek. Of course this is just my opinion. but I do believe this would be true. Star Trek hasn't been good since "The Next Generation" Series. They've been going downhill since that period. and of course people could say the same for Star Wars. but the Prequal Trilogy is now labeled [b]"The Most Successful Disappointments in Movie Hostory."[/b] according to the Non Star Wars Fans. If you look at all Three New films Yes event including Revenge of the Sith which was best "THE BEST" of the Prequals. They all made BIG Amounts of Money, they all earned back their production budget and Marketing budget. The Star Wars Prequal Trilogy Box Office Earnings [b]STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE[/b] Box Office Earnings:[b] $431,088,301[/b] Production Budget: [b]$115 million[/b] Marketing Costs: [b]$15 million[/b] [b]STAR WARS: EPISODE II - ATTACK OF THE CLONES[/b] Box Office Earnings: [b]$302,191,252 -$310,676,740[/b] (IMAX Helped) Production Budget: [b]$115 million[/b] Marketing Costs: [b]$25 million[/b] [b]STAR WARS: EPISODE III - REVENGE OF THE SITH[/b] Box Office Earnings [b]$370,819,889[/b] (Still going) Production Budget: [b]$113 million[/b] Marketing Costs: N/A Information is from. [url="http://www.boxofficemojo.com"]http://www.boxofficemojo.com[/url] If you wanna know for yourself Star Treks earnings heres a direct link. [url="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm"]http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/ch...id=startrek.htm[/url] As you can see here, Star Trek didn't do half as well in single movies as Star Wars did. Even though this doesn't really actually say anything to proof my point. But according to the General Public, Star Wars is more popluar and fond of. According to Box Office Mojo results on 10 movies for Star Trek they've made. [b]Star Trek + 10 movies =[B]$755.6 million[/b][/B] [b]Star Wars + 6 movies= $1,873.3 billion[/b] Here are the links to prove it. [url="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/"]http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/[/url] [url="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=starwars.htm"]http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/ch...id=starwars.htm[/url] [url="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm"]http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/ch...id=startrek.htm[/url] I support Edited July 12, 2005 by White Knight
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