Muslim attitudes towards the West

[Didacus]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1480669' date='Mar 20 2008, 11:44 AM'][url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/708.htm"][u]Egyptian Historian Zaynab Abd Al-'Aziz: Vatican Delegated the US to Carry Out 9/11[/u][/url][/quote]


[quote]Abd Al-Aziz: Well, do you remember what we just said about the Second Vatican Council in 1965 and about Christianizing the world? It was agreed upon and pre-arranged. John Paul II prepared a five-year plan, on the eve of the third millennium, Christianize the world. His address in 1995 was based on the assumption that by the year 2000, the entire world would be Christianized. Since the plan was not accomplished, the World Council of Churches assigned this mission to the US in January 2001, since the US is the world's unrivaled military power. They named the decade between 2001-2010 "the age of eradicating evil" – "evil" referring to Islam and Muslims.[/quote]

This is beyond riddiculous!
I can't believe intelligent people, including Islamists, would believe this carp.

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/710.htm"]Jordanian Professor Ghazi Rabab'a: Muslims Will Return to Cordoba and Granada[/url]

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1725.htm"][u]Iraqi Expert on Islamic Law Calls to Allow Young Girls to Get Married: In Islamic Countries, Girls Get Their Periods at the Age of 8-10. Westerners Criticize the Prophet Muhammad for Having Sex with His 9 Year Old Wife, But Allow Fornication with Underage Girls[/u][/url]

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/753.htm"][u]Coptic Priest Zakariya Boutrus Demands to Strike Out Verses from the Koran and Demands an Official Apology from Muslim Governments to Christians[/u][/url]

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1471.htm"][u]Friday Sermon in Sudan: Palestine Is Occupied by the Offspring of Apes and Pigs[/u][/url]

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1734.htm"][u]Saudi Cleric Muhammad Al-Munajid Warns: Freedom of Speech Might Lead to Freedom of Belief[/u][/url]

[Madame Vengier]

This thread has been going since July 2005! Impressive. It's a topic that never gets old. The issue of radical Islam is something that we all need to get informed on. As someone wrote back in one of the posts early on...the time is coming when there will be a fight for survival...not about issues and morals and religious beliefs...but basic survival. Sounds ominous but we need to face it and prepare for it.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='mortify' post='1479493' date='Mar 18 2008, 06:30 PM']Islam is intrinsically violent, but what scares me more are the Westerners that blindly defend it as peaceful.[/quote]

Truer words were never spoken.

And I would add, those who don't want to talk about Islam AT ALL. Even Christians. Even Jews.

It's the denial, avoiding, ducking, dodging and weaving that is even more scary that the terrorists. Personally, I believe that the reason it took close to 10 years to defeat Hitler is because people wouldn't TALK about Hitler or the Nazis. I can just imagine people of the day sitting around talking about how Germans were nice people and they couldn't POSSIBLY be allowing Jew-killing. Therefore, because it was un-imaginable, it was ignored...until Hitler took over most of Europe and had moved into Africa.

[Apotheoun]

[i]An excerpt from cleric Yunis Al-Astal's Friday Sermon (11 April 2008):[/i]

"Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs (i.e., the Jews) in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam - this capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe."

To view more of the sermon click the link below:

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1739.htm"][u]Hamas MP and Cleric Yunis Al-Astal in a Friday Sermon: We Will Conquer Rome, and from There Continue to Conquer the Two Americas and Eastern Europe[/u][/url]

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1741.htm"][u]Saudi Cleric Omar Al-Sweilem Extols the Breasts and Thighs of the Black-Eyed Virgins of Paradise[/u][/url]

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1740.htm"][u]Egyptian MP Hamadein Sabahi: Saddam Hussein Was My Hero, Despite His Human Rights Record[/u][/url]

This Egyptian MP has a short memory, because he said that Saddam Hussein was courageous, but he seems to have forgotten that the man was found hiding in a hole in the ground.

[Apotheoun]

[url="http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1747.htm"][u]Former Saudi Minister Ali Al-Namla: US Supports Israel Because It Wants to Get Rid of the Jews[/u][/url]

[Socrates]

. . . Bumped for benefit of the bleeding hearts

[LouisvilleFan]

Well, the silly propaganda aside (picking out news stories about certain hateful imams is poor logic that can be used just as easily against Christianity), I agree that Islam as a religion does not teach God is Love and promotes hatred.

However, Muslims are individuals and the vast majority of them are deceived as to what Islam is, just as the vast majority of Masons are deceived about Masonry is, and (to bring this much closer to home) the vast majority of non-Catholics are deceived about what Catholicism is. In spite of this, many non-Catholic Christians are awesome followers of Christ, many Masons are great citizens (and Christians), and most Muslims are peaceful and simply desire to obey God as best they know how.

Granted, in Muslim countries it can be a different story. Same is true in Catholic countries.

Edited April 30, 2008 by LouisvilleFan

[Socrates]

[quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1514992' date='Apr 30 2008, 09:41 AM']Well, the silly propaganda aside (picking out news stories about certain hateful imams is poor logic that can be used just as easily against Christianity), I agree that Islam as a religion does not teach God is Love and promotes hatred.

However, Muslims are individuals and the vast majority of them are deceived as to what Islam is, just as the vast majority of Masons are deceived about Masonry is, and (to bring this much closer to home) the vast majority of non-Catholics are deceived about what Catholicism is. In spite of this, many non-Catholic Christians are awesome followers of Christ, many Masons are great citizens (and Christians), and most Muslims are peaceful and simply desire to obey God as best they know how.

Granted, in Muslim countries it can be a different story. Same is true in Catholic countries.[/quote]
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the posts of television programming in Islamic countries as "silly propaganda." These are the lies and hatred that are actually being fed to people by the Islamic media. This is what is on "mainstream" television in Islamic nations. And no, there is really nothing equivalent on this scale coming from Christians.
Could you imagine, for instance, FOX (or any of the big American networks, for that matter) airing a "Christian" kiddie show in which the cutesy-costumed host constantly shrieks murderous hatred against Muslims or Jews?

And no, I haven't heard of anything similar going on in Catholic countries (at least not from the Catholics!)

My point isn't to pass judgment on individual Muslim persons, but rather I'm getting sick of of the pc drivel I see from a lot of posters about how Islam is really not that different from Christianity or Catholicism. While it may be politically-correct, such nonsense is false, and in reality does no one a favor.