Dave Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 To certain people in this thread who see nothing wrong with praising the Lord during the Mass with secular instruments like the guitar, drums, etc. -- As I've said before, you can spray perfume on mushy mud pie, but it'll still stink. In the same way, you can use such instruments for sacred purposes, but it won't make them sacred or appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Dave' date='Mar 22 2006, 11:06 AM']To certain people in this thread who see nothing wrong with praising the Lord during the Mass with secular instruments like the guitar, drums, etc. -- As I've said before, you can spray perfume on mushy mud pie, but it'll still stink. In the same way, you can use such instruments for sacred purposes, but it won't make them sacred or appropriate. [right][snapback]917907[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Amen brother!! People said that for years about the organ But after a few hundred years it got pride of place. Edited March 22, 2006 by jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Well then call me in a few hundred years if they finally decide after all that time that guitars, drums, etc. should have "pride of place." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Mar 21 2006, 03:57 PM']violas are definitely the work of the devil [right][snapback]916820[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Don't let my brother hear you say that. He'd allll over that. LOL He's graduating this semester with his music degree, and plays viola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'm just saying before you start spraying the mushy mud pie, the organ was not always big with the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Mar 21 2006, 04:57 PM']violas are definitely the work of the devil [right][snapback]916820[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Why do you hurt me so...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezic Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 i don't think the "i told you so" attitude will help people learn to cherish sacred music. If you really wanted to help people, things could be a little more inviting instead of the bitter "you just have to listen to the pope." Would it not be better for everyone if they CHOSE the sacred music over the non-sacred stuff instead of being forced to use it anyway and hating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Mar 22 2006, 10:45 AM']Actually it was suggested by another Phatmasser and Camster thought it was cute. [right][snapback]917721[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I was the other Phatmasser. I was poking fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 That said, almost any instrument [drums are a bit iffy] can make beautiful music for God. Classical church music sounds good on many differnet instrumunts. I think the selection is more important than the instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Mar 22 2006, 12:22 PM']Why do you hurt me so...? [right][snapback]917931[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hot stuff is wrong, actually. The violin is the tool of the devil. He played one...when he went down to Georgia...lookin' for a soul to steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' date='Mar 22 2006, 12:09 PM']hot stuff is wrong, actually. The violin is the tool of the devil. He played one...when he went down to Georgia...lookin' for a soul to steal. [right][snapback]917987[/snapback][/right] [/quote] was he in a bind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I agree cmom. I don't think we should 'bash' all instruments apart from those mentioned in Cam's posts (stringed instruments to be played with bows etc.) simply because our experience of them has not been good. Guitars aren't always played while jumping up and down, strumming until fingers bleed and eardrums burst. Of course, where possible, the organ should be played, but I don't think you can completely discount an instrument simply because you don't like it. I say (not that what I say matters in the slightests) that if an instrument can be utilised in order to lift one's heart to God in prayer, why not use it? I don't think sweeping statements can be made either for, or against the use of other instruments. Common sense is all that is needed- I don't believe 'clanging cymbals' for example, can spurn a heart into prayer, however other instruments, if played correctly, such as flutes etc. may well do, in some cases. I think what is needed is a better understanding of music and its purpose in the Mass and maybe the 'rock groups' or 'faith and worship bands' will realise that Mass isn't about performance, but prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 My son plays beautiful classical guitar. They have a wonderful meditative quality and would perfect after Communion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Just to reply to the argument that younger people can't appreciate sacred music. I totally disagree. I'm 20 right now and have actually preferred to have gregorian chant at Mass for a number of years. In fact, if you actually look at it, the younger people tend to be the ones who are [i]more[/i] orthodox and [i]more[/i] traditional. I think that a lot of youth ministers feel like they have to be more "open" with how the music at Mass is done because that was what it was like when they were younger. I would really like to urge [i]anyone[/i] who is in a position of authority in their parish - whether it is as a youth minister, liturgical director, or anything else -to make an effort to sit down with your young people and teach them why the Church prefers things like gregorian chant, solemn liturgy, etc. I think you would be surprised at how open young people are to hearing the truth, and how supportive they will be. The youth is open to the Spirit moving through the Church. The question is, are you? Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Im just diggin the fact that there may be more Latin in the Mass. And Im sorry, there is nothing more beautiful than voices raised in glory for God acapella. It seems that people nowadays are so afraid to open their mouths to sing unless there is an accompaning musical instrument in the background. Now I can see organs, cause some of them sound so awesome, yet I still love the sound of chant. I introduced myself to classical music around the age of 17, and thank God I did. Otherwise I probably would only view music from a secular sense if I didnt. Classical music opened my mind up to other forms of music other than rock and pop. And although I did play violin at one time, all the music selections we played were more modern, as I dont recall one classical piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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