Phatmass FOR UNITY OF ALL RELIGIONS?

[Budge]

[quote]Phatmass
A Catholic website [font="Arial Black"]that focuses on unity among all religions[/font][size=6] , with an emphasis on America's popular culture - forums - celebrities - art and graphics.
www.phatmass.com/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages[/quote]

Are you all upping the interfaith ante around here?

Going to invite more Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus to sing kumbuyah with?

I know the Catholic church is forming the one world church, but usually the goal isnt stated so blantantly.

When is Phatmass going to send a donation to United Religions Intiative?

If this is something you didnt know about, you may want to write google.

[url="http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=Phatmass&btnG=Google+Search"]PHATMASS ON GOOGLE[/url]

Edited June 29, 2006 by Budge

[Era Might]

You're getting boring, Budge.

[Budge]

EM, are you for UNITY of all religions?

I thought this COULD be a mistake on the part of GOOGLE, it seems Phatmass may want to rectify it.

[img]http://www.trosch.org/jpi/jp01c19/un-religion-s.jpg[/img]

[Era Might]

If you would like to know what the Catholic Church teaches (and, by extension, what Phatmass believes), I suggest you read Pope John Paul II's Encyclical Letter "Redemptoris Missio":

[quote]Nor are difficulties lacking within the People of God; indeed these difficulties are the most painful of all. As the first of these difficulties Pope Paul VI pointed to "the lack of fervor [which] is all the more serious because it comes from within. It is manifested in fatigue, disenchantment, compromise, lack of interest and above all lack of joy and hope." Other great obstacles to the Church's missionary work include past and present divisions among Christians, dechristianization within Christian countries, the decrease of vocations to the apostolate, and the counterwitness of believers and Christian communities failing to follow the model of Christ in their lives. But one of the most serious reasons for the lack of interest in the missionary task is a widespread indifferentism, which, sad to say, is found also among Christians. It is based on incorrect theological perspectives and is characterized by a religious relativism which leads to the belief that "one religion is as good as another." We can add, using the words of Pope Paul VI, that there are also certain "excuses which would impede evangelization. The most insidious of these excuses are certainly the ones which people claim to find support for in such and such a teaching of the Council.[/quote]
[url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_07121990_redemptoris-missio_en.html"]http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_pau...-missio_en.html[/url]

[Thy Geekdom Come]

Budge, considering that Pope Benedict XVI said that he sees, and I quote, "a smaller Church," I highly doubt your theory is fitting. Why are so many anti-Catholics so fond of conspiracy theories?

Making friends with other religions is the only way to convert them.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Budge' post='1014578' date='Jun 29 2006, 12:48 PM']
Are you all upping the interfaith ante around here?

Going to invite more Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus to sing kumbuyah with?

I know the Catholic church is forming the one world church, but usually the goal isnt stated so blantantly.

When is Phatmass going to send a donation to United Religions Intiative?

If this is something you didnt know about, you may want to write google.

[url="http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=Phatmass&btnG=Google+Search"]PHATMASS ON GOOGLE[/url]
[/quote]
Of course we are going to invite Muslims, Buddhists AND Hindus

but not to sing Kumbuyah. :

We invite them all to come learn, and ponder, and convert to Catholicism.

One, Holy Catholic, and Apostolic = the church founded by Jesus Christ.

[Jaime]

Well if they want to sing kumbuyah.. we could probably do a round or two


Not during mass though

[Sojourner]

ooo, kumbuyah ... does that mean a campfire? I love songs around the campfire ... I'll bring the marshmallows!

[OLAM Dad]

phatmass does focus on the unity of all religions. I don't see the problem with this statement.

[Budge]

False religions are based on the lies of the garden--Read Genesis.

Satans lies. They are not pathways to God, heaven or anything holy.

Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism all lead to hell and teach spiritual deceptions again God.

Havent you all ever heard of the FIRST COMMANDMENT?

[ReinnieR]

[quote name='Budge' post='1014666' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:37 PM']
False religions are based on the lies of the garden--Read Genesis.

Satans lies. They are not pathways to God, heaven or anything holy.

Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism all lead to hell and teach spiritual deceptions again God.

Havent you all ever heard of the FIRST COMMANDMENT?
[/quote]
you know that we've heard of the first commandment.

do you think they've heard of it?

maybe they haven't

so why not invite them to phatmass and you can teach them what the 1st commandment is.

[avemaria40]

To convert people, you have to understand where they're coming from, not completely disregard and disrespect them. Otherwise, you won't get anywhere and completely turn them off to Catholicism

[Guest Rick777]

Convert, convert, convert. Why else?

Edited June 29, 2006 by Rick777

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='ReinnieR' post='1014680' date='Jun 29 2006, 05:03 PM']
you know that we've heard of the first commandment.

do you think they've heard of it?

maybe they haven't

so why not invite them to phatmass and you can teach them what the 1st commandment is.
[/quote]
Valid response, logical sequence, concise...I give this one a 10.

[Azriel]

Agreed. It has a good beat, and you can dance to it.

but, not during Mass.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Budge' post='1014666' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:37 PM']
False religions are based on the lies of the garden--Read Genesis.

Satans lies. They are not pathways to God, heaven or anything holy.

Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism all lead to hell and teach spiritual deceptions again God.

Havent you all ever heard of the FIRST COMMANDMENT?
[/quote]

I agree with Budge here. I also give a 10. Truth leads to Heaven, leads to Hell. Bringing others to Him is the Goal of Christianity, which is its fullness in the Love of the Catholic Church, and is done through honest dialogue.

I am glad to see you back Budge.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='Raphael' post='1014604' date='Jun 29 2006, 01:50 PM']
Budge, considering that Pope Benedict XVI said that he sees, and I quote, "a smaller Church," I highly doubt your theory is fitting. Why are so many anti-Catholics so fond of conspiracy theories?

Making friends with other religions is the only way to convert them.
[/quote]


that is not true. I guess no one was ever converted to the Catholic Church before 1965, then? The church never used to "make friends" with other relegions.


Budge's criticism is legitimate. this is why i am a Traditional Catholic.

[ReinnieR]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' post='1014827' date='Jun 29 2006, 09:20 PM']
that is not true. I guess no one was ever converted to the Catholic Church before 1965, then? The church never used to "make friends" with other relegions.
Budge's criticism is legitimate. this is why i am a Traditional Catholic.
[/quote]
let's see

smack hindus with scripture

insult their intelligence

attack them personally to convert them?

i don't think you'll make converts that way.

if "not making friends" is your reason to be a "traditional Catholic" then why be catholic.

the center of our catholic faith is [edit: the creed. the belive in God the Father...in Jesus Christ] to believe in Christ's teachings


one of his teachings is to love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another.

is hating on other religions loving them?

i don't think so

Edited June 30, 2006 by ReinnieR

[Guest Rick777]

What do you mean hating other peoples religion? I always thought it was love the sinner hate the sin?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='ReinnieR' post='1014836' date='Jun 29 2006, 10:26 PM']
let's see

smack hindus with scripture

insult their intelligence

attack them personally to convert them?

i don't think you'll make converts that way.

if "not making friends" is your reason to be a "traditional Catholic" then why be catholic.

the center of our catholic faith is [edit: the creed. the belive in God the Father...in Jesus Christ] to believe in Christ's teachings
one of his teachings is to love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another.

is hating on other religions loving them?

i don't think so
[/quote]

i would never do such things. and neither did Catholics before the council. The relegion is evil, something i will not accept, because it leads people away from God. The people i will Love, because i love Christ, and he loves them, and i want to do whatever i can do to bring the people to Christ. it is true, that you do not make converts by force, or by "attacking personally" but that is not how Traditional Catholics convert people. I love all of the men who are not christians. I do hate their relegions. to Love a man, and to hate his relegion is a subtle but important distinction from hating a man and hating his relegion. [/b]we must love everyone. [/b] a false relegion is evil. it leads people away from the church, therefore it must be hated.

[quote name='Rick777' post='1014840' date='Jun 29 2006, 10:28 PM']
What do you mean hating other peoples religion? I always thought it was love the sinner hate the sin?
[/quote]