Mixed Messages?

[SJP]

I'll ask again,

Why should I accept your interpretation of scripture? What authority do you have?

[Budge]

Interpetation of scritpure?

Thats a misnomer its in English.

At least I believe it, all those parts about the first commandment and not worshipping false gods {spirits}

Seriously at least I believe in the first commandment, your bishop doesnt.

his "interpetation" by the way STINKS!

[SJP]

[quote name='Budge' post='1269158' date='May 9 2007, 02:30 PM']Interpetation of scritpure?

Thats a misnomer its in English.

At least I believe it, all those parts about the first commandment and not worshipping false gods {spirits}

Seriously at least I believe in the first commandment, your bishop doesnt.

his "interpetation" by the way STINKS![/quote]

misnomer????

Budge, you can't deny the fact that people have different interpretations of how scripture is to be understood. It's rather obvious, but you already know this.

So I'll ask you again,
Why should I accept your interpretation of scripture? What authority do you have?

[Budge]

Can I ask you a question...

Why do you even WANT to follow leaders whod rather worship hindu gods....

Dont you have any loyalty to Jesus Christ?

Your nonsense about me following my own authority, is telling in the face of this HORRIBLE APOSTATY>

IT IS GODS AUTHORITY..not mine that CONDEMNS the worship of false gods.

Please get on the cluebus!

Edited May 9, 2007 by Budge

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='SJP' post='1269145' date='May 9 2007, 12:21 PM']Well Budge, it seems to me that you believe that everyone is a false preacher unless they agree with your own personal interpretation of scripture.

Why should I accept your interpretation of scripture? What authority do you have?[/quote]

Good luck if you get an answer. I've asked Budge this question many times. What makes her interpretation any better than David Koresh's?

Don't hold you breath.

[Budge]

My interpeation is better because I BELIEVE Gods Word and do my best to follow it.

Hindu worshippers like your bishop obviously DONT.

[SJP]

You can't answer the question Budge. I don't see why that's so hard to admit.

I asked two very simple questions, why should I accept your interpretation of scripture? What authority do you have?
and you couldn't answer either of them.

Why not just admit it??

[prose]

I BELIEVE Gods Word and do my best to follow it.

So will you listen to me??

How about Jesus Miranda? He BELIEVES God's word too... Will you follow him?

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='Budge' post='1269195' date='May 9 2007, 12:53 PM']My interpeation is better because I BELIEVE Gods Word and do my best to follow it.

Hindu worshippers like your bishop obviously DONT.[/quote]

With respect, what does it matter what you "believe?" What matters is what's true, and who has the authority to say what is true. Jesus gave that authority to the Apostles, who in turn handed it on to their successors. In Budgianity, well, all we've got is YOU.

I think I'll go with Jesus' appointees, the questionable actions of this one bishop notwithstanding. As a side note, that's why there's this thing called the Magisterium as the definitive statement on faith and morals (what you dismiss as "paperwork"). Yes, this particular bishop will have to answer for his actions but you can't condemn the entire Church because of them.

Edited May 9, 2007 by kenrockthefirst

[Budge]

[quote]I think I'll go with Jesus' appointees, the questionable actions of this one bishop notwithstanding. As a side note, that's why there's this thing called the Magisterium as the definitive statement on faith and morals (what you dismiss as "paperwork"). Yes, this particular bishop will have to answer for his actions but you can't condemn the entire Church because of them.[/quote]

Actually yes I can,

why?

Because NOT ONE of them will make a stand against what he did. Will the Pope censor him, remove him, chastise him, not the Pope with his prayers to allah in a mosque Im sure has given him his full support.

Because this is ACCEPTED and promoted from the top down {Hindu worship promoted at Fatima acouple years ago]

Your Magisterium is false. Their consistent multiple actions against the first commandment PROVES IT.

I realized what the BIble was warning of when it came to those "who claim they are apostles"

2Cr 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

Edited May 9, 2007 by Budge

[SJP]

Yet you still provide us with no reason to accept your beliefs.

[Budge]

Hey obviously you dont believe the way I do.

You dont hold the same belief in Gods Word or in the first commandment.

Hey I cant force you to be loyal to Jesus Christ or stand up against the worship of false gods, if you do not desire to.

But Im making where I stand here pretty clear.

I am sounding the warning, the world is going to hell in a univeralist basket, according to scripture most are going to join up.

So Im not surprised that again, I am deemed as the PROBLEM here, instead of your apostate hindu worshipping leader.

Edited May 9, 2007 by Budge

[SJP]

Budge, any literate person can read the Bible, that doesn't mean that what they have to say is true.

[SJP]

[quote name='Budge' post='1269239' date='May 9 2007, 03:30 PM']Hey obviously you dont believe the way I do.

You dont hold the same belief in Gods Word or in the first commandment.

Hey I cant force you to be loyal to Jesus Christ or stand up against the worship of false gods, if you do not desire to.

But Im making where I stand here pretty clear.

I am sounding the warning, the world is going to hell in a univeralist basket, according to scripture most are going to join up.

So Im not surprised that again, I am deemed as the PROBLEM here, instead of your apostate hindu worshipping leader.[/quote]


"Hey obviously you dont believe the way I do."

Tell me what you believe, tell me why I should accept your interpretation of scripture.

"But Im making where I stand here pretty clear."

No, you're not, I've repeatedly asked you to tell me why I should accept what you have to say, and you have repeatedly failed to answer the question.

[Budge]

Im sorry you do not believe this.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Actually dont worry what I think, but what God is going to think when you are standing before Him one day and he asks why you followed leaders who forsook Him over and over and worshipping false gods?

Thats what you should be worrying about.

To be frank with you all, to see people who call themselves Christians commiting these acts, that are going to lead millions to embrace the antichrist makes me want to throw up.

[Budge]

[quote]Tell me what you believe, tell me why I should accept your interpretation of scripture.

"But Im making where I stand here pretty clear."

No, you're not, I've repeatedly asked you to tell me why I should accept what you have to say, and you have repeatedly failed to answer the question.[/quote]

Hey I know this is your rabbit trail of diversion to try and discredit anything I have to say...because supposely the hindu worshipping bishop is MORE of an EXPERT and should be followed over just some ordinary born again believer in Jesus Christ who believes Gods Word.

Make your choice, its yours to make.

Follow the hindu-god lover, Deepak Chopra wannabe New ager.

I cant force you to love Jesus Christ and if you dont know Him...then you dont. Ive already preached the gospel on here, doing threads on how to be saved.

By the way, It is interesting how the Holy Spirit is to play no role in the average Catholics life.

Its not the Holy Spirit by the way, saying this is ok...this false worship.

Edited May 9, 2007 by Budge

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='Budge' post='1269239' date='May 9 2007, 01:30 PM']Hey obviously you dont believe the way I do.

You dont hold the same belief in Gods Word or in the first commandment.

Hey I cant force you to be loyal to Jesus Christ or stand up against the worship of false gods, if you do not desire to.

But Im making where I stand here pretty clear.

I am sounding the warning, the world is going to hell in a univeralist basket, according to scripture most are going to join up.

So Im not surprised that again, I am deemed as the PROBLEM here, instead of your apostate hindu worshipping leader.[/quote]

Budge, the new Elijah. I guess you're among the 7,000 who haven't bent the knee to Baal.

Answer the question, Budge. Let's say this bishop and, indeed, all Catholics, are woefully misguided. Why does that make what you say true, your interpretation correct?

[Budge]

[quote]I guess you're among the 7,000 who haven't bent the knee to Baal.[/quote]

I used to follow BAAL...{ who do you think is the master of the UU church}?

So why would I go back to that dung heap and vomit?

[SJP]

[quote name='Budge' post='1269245' date='May 9 2007, 03:35 PM']Im sorry you do not believe this.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Actually dont worry what I think, but what God is going to think when you are standing before Him one day and he asks why you followed leaders who forsook Him over and over and worshipping false gods?

Thats what you should be worrying about.

To be frank with you all, to see people who call themselves Christians commiting these acts, that are going to lead millions to embrace the antichrist makes me want to throw up.[/quote]

The fact that you have to attempt to scare me with warnings about God's judgment is very telling. Is this how you respond to people when you can't provide adequate answers?

Still no answers?

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='Budge' post='1269248' date='May 9 2007, 01:37 PM']I cant force you to love Jesus Christ and if you dont know Him...then you dont. Ive already preached the gospel on here, doing threads on how to be saved.[/quote]

So now not only are you the sole source of what's true and how to interpret scripture, you can actually see into our hearts and minds to determine that we don't love Jesus. Amazing! All hail Budge, the Great and Powerful!