BG45 Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='11 September 2009 - 11:50 PM' timestamp='1252727433' post='1965149'] Uh, this isn't Justin, if that's what you're implying... [/quote] I think he meant to say your type before...speaking of, where is Justin?
zunshynn Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 [quote name='txdinghysailor' date='11 September 2009 - 06:15 PM' timestamp='1252714504' post='1965068'] dude, that's not my job. they have to want to change, i'll never be able to make them become more chaste or modest. if they come to me and say "dude, i feel so immodest and used" i'll help em', but i don't think me saying anything will help them. they'll just lose respect for me and push them further away from what's right. Well gawsh thanks for that. I think I'm really going to have a talk with my spiritual advisor, and do some soul searching. Maybe i've been missing something all along. PSYCH! Seriously, you think you're going to change me just because of something you said on the board. I think it's pretty obvious i don't have much respect for you, so why would I pay any attention to anything you say? I'm not trying to be mean, i'm just saying, i don't understand why you would say that... [/quote] No... I don't think that something I or anyone else says on this board is going to change your mind. That will have to come with your cooperation with the grace of God. I'm not saying this because I'm trying change how much you respect ME. Although thank you for making sure I know that it's not much. But I do think you need to think about how your actions are reflecting your belief and love of Jesus Christ. You don't have to tell someone, "Be chaste. Be modest." People have to make their own decisions. But YOU have to show by YOUR actions what you believe. You don't have to shove your beliefs down someone's throat. But your actions should reflect what you profess to believe in. Why would anyone respect someone for contradicting what they profess to believe in by their actions. Going along with immodest behavior is not allowing someone to make their own decisions or loving them, its cowardice in showing genuine love. If you have a pot of gold thats covered in muck, and everyone else thinks it's just a bunch of dirt and grime, but you know there's gold in there, are you going to treat it like gold, or like a pot of garbage? Women that think they need to act promiscuously are not going to go up to someone and say, I feel used. They let people use them because they don't feel like they are worth anything, often because no one ever treated them like they were worth what they really are. You don't have to make people's decisions for them, but you DO have an obligation to treat everyone with the respect that Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior, as a Catholic, wants them to be treated. Whether that effects the way they behave is in God's hands, and their cooperation with him. Kind of like us pointing out your moral obligation here effecting your decisions is ultimately left in God's hands and your cooperation with him. God bless you.
Sojourner Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='12 September 2009 - 02:00 AM' timestamp='1252735248' post='1965203'] Well said, Zunshynn!! [/quote] Great post.
Vincent Vega Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 [quote name='txdinghysailor' date='11 September 2009 - 08:15 PM' timestamp='1252714504' post='1965068'] dude, that's not my job. [/quote] Well, actually, as a Catholic, it kinda is. But hey, do what you want.
BG45 Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='12 September 2009 - 02:00 AM' timestamp='1252735248' post='1965203'] Well said, Zunshynn!! [/quote] Definitely!
cmotherofpirl Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 [quote name='txdinghysailor' date='11 September 2009 - 09:15 PM' timestamp='1252714504' post='1965068'] dude, that's not my job. they have to want to change, i'll never be able to make them become more chaste or modest. if they come to me and say "dude, i feel so immodest and used" i'll help em', but i don't think me saying anything will help them. they'll just lose respect for me and push them further away from what's right. Well gawsh thanks for that. I think I'm really going to have a talk with my spiritual advisor, and do some soul searching. Maybe i've been missing something all along. PSYCH! Seriously, you think you're going to change me just because of something you said on the board. I think it's pretty obvious i don't have much respect for you, so why would I pay any attention to anything you say? I'm not trying to be mean, i'm just saying, i don't understand why you would say that... [/quote] If you treat any female as a lady, chances are she will act more like a lady, even if she faints from shock first. Women are do used to being used and devalued by males it might take awhile getting used to, but that is absolutely NO excuse for bad, boorish or uncivilized behavior on your part. If you treat a girlfriend or acquaintance the way you would want your baby sister to be treated by a guy - with respect that she is a beautiful creation and a child of God- then you will be on the right track.
txdinghysailor Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) i don't have a baby sister, thank god. Edited September 13, 2009 by txdinghysailor
Nihil Obstat Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 [quote name='txdinghysailor' date='12 September 2009 - 10:07 PM' timestamp='1252811252' post='1965595'] i don't have a baby sister, thank god. [/quote] Way to avoid the subject.
cmotherofpirl Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 [quote name='txdinghysailor' date='13 September 2009 - 12:07 AM' timestamp='1252811252' post='1965595'] i don't have a baby sister, thank god. [/quote] My point hasn't changed. You still need to treat all females as ladies, not objects. Just because a girl has never been treated properly before is no excuse for mis-treating her now. We ALL want to be more than we think we are.
Skinzo Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 [quote name='Archaeology cat' date='13 September 2009 - 04:56 AM' timestamp='1252828595' post='1965716'] Well said, zunshynn & CMom. [/quote] Ditto! S.
aalpha1989 Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 How come we're still talking about this? It's a pretty open/shut case.
LouisvilleFan Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I thought it was interesting to consider what love is (and is not) in a very practical sense... ...but like most threads, you all end up bickering over something mindless.
Jaime Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 [quote name='LouisvilleFan' date='14 September 2009 - 10:08 AM' timestamp='1252937291' post='1966193'] I thought it was interesting to consider what love is (and is not) in a very practical sense... ...but like most threads, you all end up bickering over something mindless. [/quote] Well to be fair, it is txdinghysailor.
LouisvilleFan Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' date='14 September 2009 - 11:32 AM' timestamp='1252938779' post='1966201'] Well to be fair, it is txdinghysailor. [/quote] People do not have a right to attention.
Jaime Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 [quote name='LouisvilleFan' date='15 September 2009 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1253019947' post='1966757'] People do not have a right to attention. [/quote] You misunderstand me. I meant he's mindless
txdinghysailor Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' date='15 September 2009 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1253025435' post='1966784'] You misunderstand me. I meant he's mindless [/quote] haha. I'm mindless? that's funny...
Jaime Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 [quote name='txdinghysailor' date='15 September 2009 - 10:42 AM' timestamp='1253025742' post='1966788'] haha. I'm mindless? that's funny... [/quote] *Whew* thanks for reminding me mindless and lacking a good sense of humor
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