The Ppc

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[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='04 August 2010 - 06:38 PM' timestamp='1280965100' post='2152321']
Triddy has never talked about her charism (as far as I remember), but all I know is that, whatever it is, it will be in Latin. Which is perfectly fine and fitting, as far as I am concerned.
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JMJ
I haven't talked about my charism...but don't worry...in two to four years ALL will be revealed[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]

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[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='04 August 2010 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1280965201' post='2152322']
I should watch that movie, because she looks just like the Blessed Pauline. I wondered if that was a picture from a movie.
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Yes watch it! Maybe on a dark rainy day though, or a day when you want to forget it's summer for a bit.

[Hilde]

The ppc is on fire tonight! lawl

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[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 06:45 PM' timestamp='1280965532' post='2152326']
JMJ
I haven't talked about my charism...but don't worry...in two to four years ALL will be revealed[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]
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Two to four years! .

Your priests can come too since I think they're fssp

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[quote name='vee8' date='04 August 2010 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1280966219' post='2152331']
Two to four years! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif[/img].

Your priests can come too since I think they're fssp [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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JMJ
It will be worth the wait[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]
Of course they are FSSP...not ICK!

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 06:43 PM' timestamp='1280965392' post='2152323']
JMJ
What about my friends AKA chaplains? They don't need much, and they love camping outdoors. Well, my charism could be Carmelite influenced? And I would love to tutor children, and work with pregnant mums who are in trouble and their babies! And my habit could be blue, it's flexible!
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We will have to talk about men (even priests). As CatherineM so wisely warned us, "When you get men involved they tend to take over." From my own experience, her advice is right on the mark. That will NOT happen in this community. We will be obedient to the bishop and the Pope, and we will have priests for Mass and confession, but we will locate in an area with a flexible (and totally busy) bishop who will leave us alone except when we want him for investitures, etc.

We will find some docile priests. They may have their own community if they want, but it will be completely independent from ours. Perhaps it can be located within driving distance, but not too close. They will NOT be allowed to use the swimming pool, although we will feed them. But, the community will be run BY US and the men will not be allowed to take over. We have ways. (Or at least I do. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/evil.gif[/img] There is nothing like marriage to teach you not to be intimidated by men.) I know Triddy has a "thing" for seminarians. (I've often wondered if she REALLY has a vocation. LOL There is nothing wrong with that, BTW.)

And, sorry to break it to you, Triddy, but ALL men mean work. Notice that diocesan priests don't take care of themselves, as most single men do. They have housekeepers and all kinds of women wanting to knit them socks. The truth is that most men are high maintenance and priests are often VERY high maintenance.

But, I had in mind an older priest, close to retirement or retired, who no longer cares about power. Young men (namely seminarians) and even somewhat older priests like power. They can't help it--even priests have way too much testosterone. The only priest I know must be close to retirement age, and he is a professor of psychology at Loyola Baltimore. Since all of us so far are at least somewhat nuts (the reason for no psychological testing before entrance), I figure an experienced, but devotedly Catholic (which he DEFINITELY is) clinical psychologist would come in handy. The only problem I can see is that Jesuits are very committed to living in community, so we may need to locate fairly close to a Jesuit community.

So, we will need to talk more about men.

However, Triddy, your suggestion for an apostolate sounds very good, and I suspect others in the community would be attracted to it.

Edited August 5, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola

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JMJ
I fully understand about men taking over. I have seen many times. But don't worry. We will put our chaplains in here:

[img]http://www.sierraclubgreenhome.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/greenmobilehome4.jpg[/img]

then they can drive to the PPC one a day, and then go back to the RV park for the rest of the day. They will have to find their own food, but that is what vending machine are for. I do have a thing for seminarians...but that is because in my future congregation, the priests are looked upon as the fathers of the church family, and sisters as the mothers...and we work in tandum.

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JMJ
BTW-my community is very preventitive when it comes to men interfearing...so I totally see where ya'all are coming from. Just look a the Ladies Rest Area

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='vee8' date='04 August 2010 - 06:05 PM' timestamp='1280963123' post='2152293']
Of all the rules that I might possibly break wearing white socks will not be one of them since I'll be barefoot as much as possible. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/D.gif[/img]. In fact I'd likely be the cause of someone breaking silence to tell me to put some shoes on!
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Personally, I think barefoot is fine, well except maybe in the kitchen or refectory (for hygienic and safety reasons), or if the work you're doing would make going barefoot dangerous. IRL, I am barefoot ALL the time I am in indoors. (Even in winter because I have heated floors.) However, with wood and stone floors, bare feet may get cold in winter. We can have someone design us some "nun slippers" for those of us (like me) who do not believe in wearing footwear (even sandals) inside, but who would have to wear something warm on my feet sometimes if it was cold. (Sister Nurse does not believe in the penance of walking in the snow barefoot--too much work for her). I'd be a natural for the Poor Clares, well, except for their charism and lifestyle and habit. But, other than that, perfect! LOL

As for needing to talk about shoes during Grand Silence, I assume we would develop some hand signals. We will have to decide whether we are silent all day, or just certain times, as well as whether we keep silence during all meals or some meals, etc. Or, if certain cloistered Sisters want more silence, we may have to have a signal like a certain apron or something (or just know who the Sisters are) who want to keep silence all day, and the other Sisters will respect that. We can find ways to respect some Sisters' desire for as much silence as possible, while others speak more often. Even for those who don't normally keep silence during the day, everyone sometimes JUST doesn't feel like talking. That's also the reason for having some hermitages. But, even mostly silent nuns WILL have recreation--at least two hours every day--we need times to get to know each other better. And, because we will also have active Sisters, they can do the types of tasks that leave contemplative nuns plenty of time for prayer, contemplation, and silence.

Edited August 5, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola

[Hilde]

But I like men.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 07:27 PM' timestamp='1280968045' post='2152345']
JMJ
BTW-my community is very preventitive when it comes to men interfearing...so I totally see where ya'all are coming from. Just look a the Ladies Rest Area
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I've sensed that about you Triddy. You may be young, but you can be formidable when you choose.

BTW--Did I mention no babysitting, except if you chose to as part of your apostolate? Heaven on earth.

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[quote name='Hilde' date='04 August 2010 - 09:32 PM' timestamp='1280968358' post='2152348']
But I like men.
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Me too!!

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Hilde' date='04 August 2010 - 07:32 PM' timestamp='1280968358' post='2152348']
But I like men. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif[/img]
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I don't just like men, I love men. I don't want to leave men totally out of our lives, just make sure that it is fully understood that this is a female monastery, and that, when we need advice (which we certainly will sometimes), we will ask for it. Otherwise, butt out. We will also be obedient to the bishop (enough to keep him happy) and to the Pope.

Men who support our unique charism and who have no desire to try to tell us what to do will always be very welcome. It's just that, in my experience, except for a few unique men, the urge to take over is very strong. So, in terms of helping us run things, older retired men are ideal, because they have proved themselves, and they are already secure and don't need to prove their manhood. Obviously not ALL older men are like this--we have to choose well. But, in the business world, I met a number of very wise men, and most of them were older and at the end of their careers, and were more interested in helping others than getting ahead themselves. From what I have read, although many religious men aren't power-hungry, many are, and dioceses (even Orders) can be VERY political.

But, if younger men want to keep us company, they are very welcome.

One example of my point--just look at VS compared to the debate forums. Yes, women's communities often need the balance of the advice of an older, wiser, man. And, all female communities can get toxic, too, so we have to always be on the alert for that. But, younger men just can't help showing off, or trying to take over, or having to be right all the time. Men have their highest levels of testosterone in their late teens. It's nature. And, seminarians, in particular, have been kept under the thumb of obedience for so long that they are itching for power and their own parishes. In its place, that's great. But, not in our community--again, unless we ask.

In our community, every woman is wise in her own way and has something unique to contribute. If men take over, the whole atmosphere would be different. So, we don't reject men--not by any means. But, we are also careful. Does that make sense?

Edited August 5, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

We were having so much fun! Did I kill the thread? I didn't mean to. <sigh>

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='linnie' date='04 August 2010 - 06:03 PM' timestamp='1280963012' post='2152291']
I'd be happy to offer my services as Sr. Infirmariam


Sr. Mary Benedicta of the Little Red Scooter.........RN
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I missed this post earlier--We'd love to have you as infirmarian. And our donor will make sure that your infirmary has all the equipment and room it needs. We'll also be sure that we have a couple of competent M.D.'s who promise to be within easy reach, even if it means that the donor has to put them "on retainer." (Do doctors ever do that? Or do only lawyers do that?)

I love Sister Mary Benedicta of the Little Red Scooter, PPC, RN (or does it go the other way around?)

[Hilde]

Yeah but we get to have them over to play card games with right?

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[quote name='Hilde' date='04 August 2010 - 10:14 PM' timestamp='1280978062' post='2152451']
Yeah but we get to have them over to play card games with right?
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JMJ
Not the FSSP chaplains, they cheet. And really well[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 10:29 PM' timestamp='1280978961' post='2152463']
JMJ
Not the FSSP chaplains, they cheet. And really well[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]
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Holy men of the cloth? Cheating? Horrors! Next thing we know they will wear white socks with black shoes!

We will just have to become expert at some other card game that they don't know well enough to cheat. And, we will always use a new pack of cards wrapped in plastic. If necessary, our donor will pay for cameras overhead, like Las Vegas. LOL Okay, we don't need to go THAT far.

It is our duty as Sisters to keep our seminary brethren from falling into wanton ways. If we catch them cheating, we will simply refuse to feed them. I suspect that will be enough of an incentive not to cheat. (Not to mention that our habits will have larger sleeves than theirs, much better for hiding cards.) [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]

Edited August 5, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola

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JMJ
Ah. You speak much wisdom. I wasn't planning on feedin them, though. That is why their RV will be in the woods...so they can eat berries and locust

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 10:42 PM' timestamp='1280979762' post='2152477']
JMJ
Ah. You speak much wisdom. I wasn't planning on feedin them, though. That is why their RV will be in the woods...so they can eat berries and locust
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Yup, John the Baptist could teach them a lot. If nothing else, watch out for beautiful women who want your head cut off. Severely cuts down on your ability to preach.