The Ppc

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='vee8' timestamp='1284916879' post='2174589']
Im... so ... sorry to hear that GET HER THERESE!! GET HER GOOD!!


LIES! All lies! Sad sacks is a more apt description.


BTW

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Saint_Thomas_Aquinas.jpg[/img]


Edited to add the first and foremost of all Carmelite sad sacks.... the saint of sadness.... the model of misery.... the fount of frowning..... TERESA OF AVILA
[img]http://marymackillop.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Saint-Teresa-of-Avila-1515-15821.jpg[/img]
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[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1284917243' post='2174596']
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Saint_Thomas_Aquinas.jpg[/img]
Holy as he was, even St. Thomas Aquinas couldn't conceal his dismay at liver meatloaf.
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AAaaahahahahahahahhaa!!!

Edit: Emoticon code. Alas.

Edited September 19, 2010 by laetitia crucis

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='vee8' timestamp='1284916879' post='2174589']
Im... so ... sorry to hear that GET HER THERESE!! GET HER GOOD!!


LIES! All lies! Sad sacks is a more apt description.


BTW

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Saint_Thomas_Aquinas.jpg[/img]


Edited to add the first and foremost of all Carmelite sad sacks.... the saint of sadness.... the model of misery.... the fount of frowning..... TERESA OF AVILA
[img]http://marymackillop.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Saint-Teresa-of-Avila-1515-15821.jpg[/img]
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Laughing hard here!!!!

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='vee8' timestamp='1284916879' post='2174589']
Im... so ... sorry to hear that GET HER THERESE!! GET HER GOOD!!


LIES! All lies! Sad sacks is a more apt description.


BTW

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Saint_Thomas_Aquinas.jpg[/img]


Edited to add the first and foremost of all Carmelite sad sacks.... the saint of sadness.... the model of misery.... the fount of frowning..... TERESA OF AVILA
[img]http://marymackillop.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Saint-Teresa-of-Avila-1515-15821.jpg[/img]
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Laughing hard here!!!! I thought OHM said God Protect us from gloomy saints? Vee you definitely need to cheer up!

[laetitia crucis]

While Image-Googling "Teresa of Avila" looking for an exceptionally dour image, this one came up on page 4:

[img]http://thecia.com.au/star-trek/original-series/2/11b800.jpg[/img]


AAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Did God [i]know [/i]I would be searching for ToA? I think He did....

[vee]

[quote name='Indwelling Trinity' timestamp='1284936739' post='2174718']
Laughing hard here!!!! I thought OHM said God Protect us from gloomy saints? [b]Vee you definitely need to cheer up[/b]!
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Bossy!


[quote name='laetitia crucis' timestamp='1284936908' post='2174720']
While Image-Googling "Teresa of Avila" looking for an exceptionally dour image, this one came up on page 4:

[img]http://thecia.com.au/star-trek/original-series/2/11b800.jpg[/img]


AAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Did God [i]know [/i]I would be searching for ToA? I think He did....
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you are such a nerd!!! .... oh wait so am I :grouphug: You know whats terrible? God knew you would be searching for the TofA pics and stuck the Spock one in there jsut for kicks, well I searched too and found the Spock pic but guess who was next to it? HER

[HopefulBride]

Sister Iggy,

I am open to doing anything. Howeveer, I think It is for the benefit of the community if I spend my postulancy lurking around the Phatmass Phorums (especially the vocation station) all for research of course so that I may answer questions such as - How many postulants entered the Sisters of Life and How Many Novices does the SMMC have.

Do you agree? or do you believe I can further the Community's mission in another way?

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='HopefulBride' timestamp='1285078504' post='2175065']
Sister Iggy,

I am open to doing anything. Howeveer, I think It is for the benefit of the community if I spend my postulancy lurking around the Phatmass Phorums (especially the vocation station) all for research of course so that I may answer questions such as - How many postulants entered the Sisters of Life and How Many Novices does the SMMC have.

Do you agree? or do you believe I can further the Community's mission in another way?
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That sounds excellent. As you know, I am the librarian, but there is no way I can do that by myself. And, the need for someone to do research is endless. We'd love for you to do research for us, especially on other Orders, because there are so many things they can teach us. So, if you don't mind being a researcher, that would fill a need for the community. And, when you find something particularly interesting, we're counting on you to share it with us.

For example, as you may know, we have no concept for what our chapel, or even our monastery will look like. So, if, in your researches, you come across particularly beautiful chapels, monasteries, monastery grounds, etc., we'd love to see those, particularly if they are either in the U.S., or something we might reasonably be able to build in the U.S.. On the other hand, if you don't find this an interesting subject to research, then someone else will.

As a postulant, of course, you may be asked to join in on other tasks, as well. But, we will try to have them be tasks you truly enjoy, as much as possible. So, if you tell us what you enjoy doing, and the gifts that, in an ideal world, you would like to bring to the community, we know already that we will need them.

Let us know if you would like to be cloistered, semi-cloistered, or active--if you even know yet. In this community, many postulants may not have yet made a final decision on that. If active, let us know if there is an apostolate you would love to be part of. Also, if there is a particular saint who means a lot to you, let us know so that we can give that saint a place of special reverence in the community. The Community is named after Our Lady of Peace and the chapel is dedicated to St. Joseph. We already have one chapel dedicated to Our Lady and another to the Passion of Jesus. But, the grounds of the monastery are large, so we have room for special places dedicated to a much-loved saint.

And, if there is something you cannot do, tell us that, too. For example, at least one other member (in addition to myself) is extremely allergic to grass, hay, etc., so we will not be asked to mow the lawn. In life, not everything we have to do is something we enjoy, but, on the other hand, the community is flexible enough that no Sister will be ever be asked to do something that is harmful to her or goes against her charism. Several Sisters, including myself, have physical limitations, and the Community has been kind enough to accommodate them.

Also, think about what you would LOVE in a community, in a monastery--anything. We will do our best accomodate your dreams, and, like everyone else who has posted, you will give us some good ideas, just by telling us what you would love.

Pick a religious name, if you like. Some of us have "fun" names, others have serious names, others have both kinds of names.

All members of the community have their own cells, or a hermitage if they prefer. Hermitages are also available for Sisters who want to go on a solitary retreat. The grounds are large enough so that, while some hermitages may be closer to the main monastery for convenience, others will be further away, and be very solitary and quiet, but close enough so that Sister Cook and her angels could bring you meals if you wanted (or you could cook for yourself), or if you wanted to attend Mass with the community while on retreat. (Reminder: I do not know the standard practices for retreats, although I know they differ by Order and Community, so preferences will be easily accommodated.) There is also a guest retreat house outside the enclosure, so Sisters who feel they could contribute to others who are making a retreat, by giving talks, leading discussions, etc are welcome and needed.

Added note: I haven't mentioned this recently, but, although our community will be located in a quiet, beautiful location, it will also be located near enough to a respected university to accommodate those Sisters who want to pursue further education, including special training for those apostolates that require it, such as medicine or teaching.

Personally, I'd love to have a Sister who was a trained vet so that we could have a small refuge for injured wildlife--plus, my chronically ill cats need a good vet nearby, and having one as part of the community would be wonderful. If a Sister felt called to this, the nearby university just happens to include a school of veterinary medicine (as well as any other academic or professional degree a Sister wanted to pursue, including a respected religion department).

Edited September 21, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola

[she_who_is_not]

Let's have an ice cream party every Sunday! And Thursday!

[MarieLynn]

[quote name='she_who_is_not' timestamp='1285273767' post='2175512']
Let's have an ice cream party every Sunday! And Thursday!
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Ooh yes please! Can one of the ice cream flavours be Hokey Pokey, then I won't feel so homesick .

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='she_who_is_not' timestamp='1285273767' post='2175512']
Let's have an ice cream party every Sunday! And Thursday!
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Sister Cook's homemade ice cream is really something special. And, ice cream is healthy food--lots of calcium and promotes a good mood.

On feast days, we can have cake with the ice cream. (Although some people prefer pie a la mode, I'm a huge fan of ice cream cakes.)

BTW--Recently, Sister Cook's recipe for liver meatloaf was permanently lost, and she does not have any recollection of how to make it.

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1285274563' post='2175516']
Sister Cook's homemade ice cream is really something special. And, ice cream is healthy food--lots of calcium and promotes a good mood.

On feast days, we can have cake with the ice cream. (Although some people prefer pie a la mode, I'm a huge fan of ice cream cakes.)

BTW--Recently, Sister Cook's recipe for liver meatloaf was permanently lost, and she does not have any recollection of how to make it.
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I think I've just won the lottery!!!

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='MarieLynn' timestamp='1285274492' post='2175515']
Ooh yes please! Can one of the ice cream flavours be Hokey Pokey, then I won't feel so homesick .
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If you can tell Sister Cook what's in it, she can make it. Well, unless it has weird stuff like crickets or brussels sprouts, or expensive exotic ingredients that can only be found on mountaintops in Tibet.

Otherwise, homemade ice cream is a relatively frugal dessert. However, as part of the necessary self-discipline required to live in community (as well as for hygenic reasons), Sisters will scoop their ice cream with a clean scooper, and eating straight out of the ice cream container with a used spoon is not allowed. The "kitchen angels" are the only ones allowed to eat the last bit of ice cream out of the ice cream maker before they wash it. They can be bribed.

BTW--No Sister will be required to eat dessert if she doesn't want to, as long as she is not self-righteous about it. (If a Sister truly hates ice cream or is not allowed to eat it for medical reasons, Sister Cook will provide an equivalent dessert on request.) For those who are lactose intolerant, I have some excellent pills for lactose intolerance--nothing medicinal, just lactose enzymes, etc.--they really work!

Personally, I feel that dessert is one of the many ways that God shows how much he loves us--but the community understands that there are other points of view, and respects them.

[MarieLynn]

I of L, sorry, have only just caught up with this again and seen your question.

Hokey Pokey ice cream is vanilla icecream with small pieces of caramalised toffee stirred into it. It is the No1 flavour choice of NZ'ers, and is yummy.

Iggy, I figured since I will have to come over to the US to enter, I might bring a small reminder of "home" with me from down under.? Like a shipping container full!

Who knows, the Sisters may think it is pretty neat, and Sister Cook will find it very easy to make. Where the Hokey Pokey name comes from tho' is beyond me. Kiwi humour maybe?

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='MarieLynn' timestamp='1285556565' post='2176166']
I of L, sorry, have only just caught up with this again and seen your question.

Hokey Pokey ice cream is vanilla icecream with small pieces of caramalised toffee stirred into it. It is the No1 flavour choice of NZ'ers, and is yummy.

Iggy, I figured since I will have to come over to the US to enter, I might bring a small reminder of "home" with me from down under.? Like a shipping container full!

Who knows, the Sisters may think it is pretty neat, and Sister Cook will find it very easy to make. Where the Hokey Pokey name comes from tho' is beyond me. Kiwi humour maybe?
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I think Hokey Pokey ice cream sounds like it came straight from heaven! New Zealanders obviously have excellent taste. BTW--In the U.S., the "Hokey Pokey" is a dance done by kids in nursery school, and for some reason that makes no sense to me, at certain weddings. How a child's dance relates to vanilla ice cream with carmelized toffee bits is beyond me.

I suspect the majority of PPC sisters will be from the U.S., but there will likely be representatives from other countries, as well, particularly Canada. We definitely need a "kiwi" to join us, to teach us new customs and to keep us from being too "U.S.-centric." Americans have this bad habit of forgetting about the rest of the world. But, one thing you'll appreciate is that Americans LOVE accents from former and current English Commonwealth countries. There may be a little teasing, but that is jealousy. When it is your turn to do readings, we will thorougly enjoy every word--not only the content, but the accent, as well.

Please feel free to bring with you any reminders of home that the community can incorporate into the monastery and our daily life. If you bring samples of what the carmelized toffee bits are like, Sister Cook should be able to easily learn to make "authentic" Hokey Pokey ice cream. Since ice creams do differ, you might want to being a recipe if there is one, and maybe a container or two well wrapped in dry ice. But, otherwise, Sister Cook is so talented, that you won't need to import actual containers to have a bit of home at dessert time.

One thing that is different in the U.S. is that, in general, our milk isn't as rich as it is in England (not sure about New Zealand). When Laetitia Crucis talked about the "double cream" that was served with dessert at the community she will be entering soon, my mouth watered. Religious life is hard, and "double cream" is a gift from nature that helps lighten the heart.

The reason that dairy farmers in the U.S. don't normally keep Jersey cows (as I understand it--the source of the richest milk/cream) is that the milk production of Jersey cows isn't as high as that of other breeds of cow. However, I was thinking this past weekend that, since the community will not be trying to make millions from milk production, we might want to keep a herd of Jersey cows. We could either keep the herd ourselves, or perhaps make an agreement with a local farmer to raise Jersey cows to provide milk and cream for the community in exchange for something else--my understanding of the business of dairy farming is nil, obviously. Just that the lack of Jersey cows in the U.S. is just one of the mulititude of ways that the U.S. is deficient compared to other countries. Obviously, the U.S. does many things very well--but how much better if our community could incorporate the best things from our various "worlds."

[MarieLynn]

We have a dance here in NZ called the" Hokey Tokey" that kids do at Pre school, so guess we are on the same wavelength.
Also it is done at weddings, 21st birthdays and the like, and can be so funny to watch when some of the guests who have had a little too much to drink, get up and have a shot at it!!

I forgot to mention that Hokey Pokey ice cream also has thick gooey caramel syrup stirred into the 'whipped cream" vanilla as well as the caramelised toffee pieces. Have I got you converted to Kiwi icecream ? Seriously all our icecream is made with whipped cream, which is the same as Laetitia Crucis's 'double cream'.

You are so right, Kiwi's have an accent! When I worked in Az. I was always referred to as "the Kiwi Nurse with the cute accent', and for some reason everyone thought it was cool. When it is my turn to do the readings I hope you won't all fall about laughing, as some of our pronunciations will be different from those of the sisters who originate from the US. The only thing I would ask PLEASE, is don't ever confuse the NZ accent with that of the Australians - it is so different!!

Jersey cows are the main dairy herds of NZ. Everywhere you go you see the massive herds of the brown Jersey's, no wonder most NZ'ers are addicted to dairy products especially cream! Cream is reasonably cheap to buy so we always have a bottle in the refrigerator. Dairying and all its associated products are our main export, and our chief source of income. If you decide that the Community needs a small herd of Jerseys, may I volunteer my services to help milk them? That, I can do, in addition to my Laundry duties. (if of course you give me your permission to do so)

I will be happy to share my icecream recipes with Sister Cook, I even have a recipe for dairy intolerant icecream lovers, although it is more like a sorbet in texture.

Can you please give me an approx entrance date, as I will have to get my passport and visa paperwork underway pretty soon. as at the moment, I would be regarded as an Alien and get deported!!!!!!

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='MarieLynn' timestamp='1285789324' post='2176800']
We have a dance here in NZ called the" Hokey Tokey" that kids do at Pre school, so guess we are on the same wavelength.
Also it is done at weddings, 21st birthdays and the like, and can be so funny to watch when some of the guests who have had a little too much to drink, get up and have a shot at it!!

I forgot to mention that Hokey Pokey ice cream also has thick gooey caramel syrup stirred into the 'whipped cream" vanilla as well as the caramelised toffee pieces. Have I got you converted to Kiwi icecream ? Seriously all our icecream is made with whipped cream, which is the same as Laetitia Crucis's 'double cream'.

You are so right, Kiwi's have an accent! When I worked in Az. I was always referred to as "the Kiwi Nurse with the cute accent', and for some reason everyone thought it was cool. When it is my turn to do the readings I hope you won't all fall about laughing, as some of our pronunciations will be different from those of the sisters who originate from the US. The only thing I would ask PLEASE, is don't ever confuse the NZ accent with that of the Australians - it is so different!!

Jersey cows are the main dairy herds of NZ. Everywhere you go you see the massive herds of the brown Jersey's, no wonder most NZ'ers are addicted to dairy products especially cream! Cream is reasonably cheap to buy so we always have a bottle in the refrigerator. Dairying and all its associated products are our main export, and our chief source of income. If you decide that the Community needs a small herd of Jerseys, may I volunteer my services to help milk them? That, I can do, in addition to my Laundry duties. (if of course you give me your permission to do so)

I will be happy to share my icecream recipes with Sister Cook, I even have a recipe for dairy intolerant icecream lovers, although it is more like a sorbet in texture.

Can you please give me an approx entrance date, as I will have to get my passport and visa paperwork underway pretty soon. as at the moment, I would be regarded as an Alien and get deported!!!!!!

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Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. The real prioress of the Community (who exists only in our imagination) has been away, and I am the council member concerned with temporal things--since I'm the most worldly one in the community (as well as the only council member so far who actually exists except in our imagination) so I will gladly take care of arrangements. (Other members of the council include the Sisters in charge of music, the liturgical and sacramental things, the Novice Mistress, etc. I know there are official "religious words" for these roles in the community, but since their titles may differ by Order and community I am only using descriptive titles.

Most Sisters enter immediately. However, since you have Visa and Passport issues, your entrance date may have to be delayed. December 2 is the feast day of Our Lady of Peace, so that could be a very meaningful day to enter. However, if you want to enter earlier, find a feast day this month or next that is meaningful to you, and we can set that as your entrance date. BTW--Don't worry about any possible problems with your visa, passport, etc. The "angel" (that is, primary donor) of the Community, as well as the Communities many friends have an "in" with immigration authorities, so, as soon as the paperwork is completed, you will find that you are approved very quickly.

On the other hand, if you want to spend Christmas with your family before you enter, that's understandable, and we can find a meaningful feast day for you to enter in January.

The "Hokey Tokey" sounds very similar to the American "Hokey Pokey." "You put your right foot in, you put your right foot out, you put your right foot it and you shake it all about, You do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around, That's what's it's all about." There have been theological discussions on Phatmass as to whether the Hokey Pokey is really what it's all about, but no need to repeat them here.

The thick, gooey caramel syrup makes Hokey Pokey ice cream sound even better. I told Sister Cook about Hokey Pokey ice cream, and then had to remind her that, for hygienic reasons, it is better that the Sister Cook not drool on the food.

As for the herd of Jersey cows, you are welcome to help milk them or to help feed the calves. In the U.S., at least, most milking is done by milking machines for hygienic reasons, and if we ever wanted to distribute or sell our milk and cream we would have to meet certain standards. I think the U.S. desperately needs more Jersey cows. Even if the farm made little or no profit, it would be worthwhile. Since the farm will be part of the monastery grounds, we can offer a willing dairy farmer who has experience with Jersey cows and loves them, the facilities and the necessary land at little to no rent, and can pay for the building of the necessary facilities.

I'll give you an example of how pathetic the "cream" situation is in the U.S. Our standard whipping cream doesn't even come close to cream from Jersey cows--and "double thick" cream doesn't even exist. And, while it is possible to buy Devonshire clotted cream from certain speciality stores, the cost is roughly USD 7 (roughly NZD 9.50) for about 6 oz.--in the U.S. we have refused to go metric. I was at a fancy specialty grocery store the other day because they have a very good bakery, and their pre-made soups are excellent. I was looking in the dairy section and found a container that purported to be whipping cream from Jersey cows. It was in a bottle, and from what I could see, the cream looked thinner than our standard whipping cream, more like milk. When I looked at the ingredients, the bottle said that it contained milk as well as carrageenan (a food thickener made from seaweed). And, the quart bottle cost USD 1.99 (NZD 2.69). How lame is that?

I'm sure Sister Cook will appreciate any recipes you bring. And, for those of us (including myself) who are lactose intolerant but will settle for nothing less than thick, rich ice cream, there are some excellent lactose enzyme pills available now that work very well--at least for me. We have lactose-free milk, but I've never seen lactose-free cream. There may be some scientific reason why that isn't possible, but if it's available, we'll find it--even if it doesn't come from Jersey cows. Perhaps one of our future Sisters will be a food scientist who can create lactose-free Jersey cream.

So, let us know what date you'd like to enter, and I'll start negotiations with a dairy farmer. Farming is a difficult business, so I have no doubt we can find an experienced dairy farmer willing to take charge of our herd of Jersey cows, especially if we provide him or her needed facilities and housing for the family at little or no cost.

[Sarah147]

[quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1279680751' post='2145792']
I can see it now:

Us:

Dear Bishop.

Please grant your blessing to our community. We are Benedictine and Carmelite and Franciscan and Dominican and Visitandine and cloistered and semi-cloistered and not-at-all cloistered and we like to wear sandals except when it is cold. Or muddy. Then we like boots. When it is medium cold we wear socks with our sandals, but they cannot be white socks as that would be unfashionable and we wish to be nuns with a sense of style. And we like treehouses. And libraries with pictures but not too many pictures that they'll crowd out the books. And we have a hermit. Don't bother her, she's being quiet and contemplative. Also, don't bother her because vee8 is standing guard with a super-soaker.

Bishop:


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It's great to see such a decisive bunch of people that can warmly come together and agree on matters.

Edited October 8, 2010 by JoyfulLife

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1286579841' post='2178648']
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It's great to see such a decisive bunch of people that can warmly come together and agree on matters.
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Laughing hard here... you guys are nuts!... Maybe that is why i love you all so much! Where is my tree house now?

[HopefulBride]

I hope I don't get "pushed out" anytime soon, I haven't been contributing to the community' much.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='HopefulBride' timestamp='1286588736' post='2178699']
I hope I don't get "pushed out" anytime soon, I haven't been contributing to the community' much.
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Of course you won't be pushed out. You've been on retreat. That's the ticket. A long silent retreat, that we hope resulted in you feeling closer to God and that also gave you lots of good ideas for posts in the future.