Lil Red Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I need feminism because of what these young women faced when they set up a feminist society and decided to participate in the 'I Need Feminism Because...' project. that just makes me so angry, for them, and angry that boys/men are growing up with those attitudes like in the article.
Era Might Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 "Traditional" relationships between men and women are hardly romantic, just read the Wife of Bath's story in the Canterbury Tales. Some things have changed for the better, some things haven't. One thing I've learned since having my own family is you can throw your romantic picture out the window. Women and kids don't bend to your ideas...you have to (or I have to, rather, I'll speak for myself) rearrange things and try to make the best out of different personalities and out of the circumstances of the times you live in. I tend to look at life through the lens of experience rather than idealistic roles that have to be filled. I'm not out to emancipate women in Latin America or other areas of the world who live in different experiences of relationships, and neither am I out to tell Catholic women in the West to be homeschooling stay at home moms. I'm not out to Westernize the world or traditionalize the West. History is full of complex, tangled knots and we have to figure out the best we can how to deal with them, in the short time we have. Like everything else, the Gospel remains always not as a handbook for customs or civilization or roles, but a revelation of perfection. Feminism, like any other -ism, can only be an experiment in time, not The Way Things Are. According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and another man is building upon it. Let each man take care how he builds upon it. For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw -- each man's work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. --1Corinthians 3:10-15
ploomf Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I need feminism because of what these young women faced when they set up a feminist society and decided to participate in the 'I Need Feminism Because...' project. That article did bad things to my blood pressure. :pinch: Seriously, nobody should have to put up with that.
arfink Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I guess I don't specifically need/want feminism as such. I think I would much rather have a good humanism. Because that's what we all are, right? Male and female He created them, and such. Women are awesome. Also men. Yup. :)
Basilisa Marie Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 :hehe2: Everyone? I don't need feminism. Then I hope you don't mind if men harass you. :)
Basilisa Marie Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I guess I don't specifically need/want feminism as such. I think I would much rather have a good humanism. Because that's what we all are, right? Male and female He created them, and such. Women are amesome. Also men. Yup. :) But that's what good feminism is. :)
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Why I need Confession, I need Zoloft, and right now, I need a hard drink. I don't, however, need feminism.
fides' Jack Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Then I hope you don't mind if men harass you. :) As a man, I take issue with this. I don't need feminism to tell me how to respect women. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself. To contribute, I guess I'll chime in: I need feminism because this website has a gray background. I need feminism because my 4-month-old just peed himself. I need feminism because water is a liquid. I need feminism because rocking chairs rock both backward and forward. Or the real issue here: I need feminism because I need a cultural ideology (or semi-anti-cultural ideology, depending on which side of the coin you like) to tell me how to think and behave.
Little Flower Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 I think that the problem with feminism is that it is actually not liberating women, it is binding them. At least the feminism that I am familiar with. The feminism that says a women's worth is found in how much like a man she can be. In other words, her dignity is not in that as a women, she is given the wonderful ability to bear children, to have incredible emotional sensitivity, to have the capacity to love and care for children the way a man never could. Instead, feminists want women to be like men. They say that women aren't being properly respected unless women open doors for themselves (becuase obviously if we admit we aren't as strong as men then we have less worth) or that we need to be just like men and find dignity and worth in careers. Why would I want to find my dignity and worth sitting at a desk all day doing something that ultimately has NO MEANING instead of raising children with immortal souls and being probably one of the greatest factors in their lives as to whether they are eternally in heaven or hell? Me, I choose to find my dignity and worth in the UNIQUENESS of my femininity. There have been studies and stuff that show that when a mother works instead of being home with her children, the children suffer. Same with divorces, same-sex parents, etc. Is your career (which is really at the end of your life pretty meaningless) worth more to you than the harm caused to your children by having no mother home with them? Now please don't misunderstand, I'm not judging women who do choose careers. Especially since I have no idea what their particular circumstances are, reasons why they are working, etc. Of course it is far better for a mother to work than for her children to starve! I think it is better all around for a mother to be at home though, and that a woman who chooses to be a mother will be more fulfilled. God created us to be mothers, if we are not fulfilling what we are created to do, we won't be as fulfilled.
LittleWaySoul Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 I need feminism because of what these young women faced when they set up a feminist society and decided to participate in the 'I Need Feminism Because...' project. What is this I can't even. :mad:
CrossCuT Posted June 22, 2013 Author Posted June 22, 2013 I dont think guys truly understand why us ladies want feminism. I really didnt even fully understand it until I experienced sexism first hand at a job. It was terrible.
Basilisa Marie Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 I think that the problem with feminism is that it is actually not liberating women, it is binding them. At least the feminism that I am familiar with. The feminism that says a women's worth is found in how much like a man she can be. In other words, her dignity is not in that as a women, she is given the wonderful ability to bear children, to have incredible emotional sensitivity, to have the capacity to love and care for children the way a man never could. Instead, feminists want women to be like men. They say that women aren't being properly respected unless women open doors for themselves (becuase obviously if we admit we aren't as strong as men then we have less worth) or that we need to be just like men and find dignity and worth in careers. Why would I want to find my dignity and worth sitting at a desk all day doing something that ultimately has NO MEANING instead of raising children with immortal souls and being probably one of the greatest factors in their lives as to whether they are eternally in heaven or hell? Me, I choose to find my dignity and worth in the UNIQUENESS of my femininity. There have been studies and stuff that show that when a mother works instead of being home with her children, the children suffer. Same with divorces, same-sex parents, etc. Is your career (which is really at the end of your life pretty meaningless) worth more to you than the harm caused to your children by having no mother home with them? Now please don't misunderstand, I'm not judging women who do choose careers. Especially since I have no idea what their particular circumstances are, reasons why they are working, etc. Of course it is far better for a mother to work than for her children to starve! I think it is better all around for a mother to be at home though, and that a woman who chooses to be a mother will be more fulfilled. God created us to be mothers, if we are not fulfilling what we are created to do, we won't be as fulfilled. New Feminism. Seriously. Check it out.
LittleWaySoul Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 New Feminism. Seriously. Check it out. Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Basilisa Marie Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 As a man, I take issue with this. I don't need feminism to tell me how to respect women. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself. To contribute, I guess I'll chime in: I need feminism because this website has a gray background. I need feminism because my 4-month-old just peed himself. I need feminism because water is a liquid. I need feminism because rocking chairs rock both backward and forward. Or the real issue here: I need feminism because I need a cultural ideology (or semi-anti-cultural ideology, depending on which side of the coin you like) to tell me how to think and behave. Congrats, you've got proper behavior covered. That's one, only a couple million to go. Not all men are like you. There are a whole lot of men who don't understand how to treat women, and they need a dose of feminism. I need feminism because I get harassed on the street by men when I'm walking home from work in my work uniform. We need feminism because the computer hacker who exposed the Steubenville rape case is facing more jail time than the rapists. The problem of how women are treated in society is a whole lot bigger than you and I, and so we need something to address it. Don't we believe one person's sin affects the whole community? So what if some of us have it figured out. There are a whole lot of people who don't get it, and make life harder for the rest of us.
LittleWaySoul Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Congrats, you've got proper behavior covered. That's one, only a couple million to go. Not all men are like you. There are a whole lot of men who don't understand how to treat women, and they need a dose of feminism. I need feminism because I get harassed on the street by men when I'm walking home from work in my work uniform. We need feminism because the computer hacker who exposed the Steubenville rape case is facing more jail time than the rapists. The problem of how women are treated in society is a whole lot bigger than you and I, and so we need something to address it. Don't we believe one person's sin affects the whole community? So what if some of us have it figured out. There are a whole lot of people who don't get it, and make life harder for the rest of us. Wait, REALLY?! :shock:
Lil Red Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 we need feminism because there are men who believe stupid poo like this:
LittleWaySoul Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Rebutting one single part of that horrendous graphic, don't mind me. Source: http://womenrockscience.tumblr.com/post/53348538718/hey-i-saw-a-post-that-was-credited-to-you-and-i-lost and https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience
photosynthesis Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 All the achievements of the 'great men' of this world are nothing compared to the Queen of Heaven. Spreading True Devotion to Mary will benefit the world far more than any feminist movement.
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