freewill in the eyes of a gay man

[Melchisedec]

[quote name='infinitelord1' date='Jul 7 2005, 01:51 PM']Well, ok, forget genetics and being "born that way" then. Lets talk about the "switch" that you are referring to. I have been to the groups that u say your brother-in-law has been to. They claim that hundreds are living a heterosexual life. These who live normal lives now also claim that anybody can live a normal heterosexual life. So my question to you mel.......do you believe them?
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Great question. I would say that some of them were in fact changed by the experience and live great lives. I also believe some live in a type of denial. I had a friend of mine, whos dad was gay. I was shocked when I heard it, thinking to myself, how the heck were you concieved. She told me that her dad and mom were married for 15 years, and her dad came out to the family and divorced his wife. He had told his daughter he was gay his whole life but just couldn't accept it. That to me shows that its definitely possible for a person to deny an attraction to the same sex. Now I want to state that I do believe people who go through traumatic experiences can express that through becomming gay or promiscuous. I've seen this firsthand aswell. I am not at all denying that to be possible. I equally also do hold that there are people born gay. Should we believe those who claim they were born gay?

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='Melchisedec' date='Jul 7 2005, 02:16 PM']Great question. I would say that  some of them were in fact changed by the experience and live great lives. I also believe some live in a type of denial. I had a friend of mine, whos dad was gay. I was shocked when I heard it, thinking to myself, how the heck were you concieved. She told me that her dad and mom were married for 15 years, and her dad came out to the family and divorced his wife. He had told his daughter he was gay his whole life but just couldn't accept it.  That to me shows that its definitely possible for a person to deny an attraction to the same sex. Now I want to state that I do believe people who go through traumatic experiences can express that through becomming gay or promiscuous. I've seen this firsthand aswell.  I am not at all denying that to be possible. I equally also do hold that there are people born gay. Should we believe those who claim they were born gay?
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Also a good question and a question that i have asked myself for a while now.......the more and more i have learned about the topic suggests that it is not genetic and is in fact psycological. So no.....i dont believe that anybody was born gay. Those who believe they were born gay......we will never know if they were or werent. Something could have happened to them when they were so young they dont remember.......could have been the way they were raised.......could have been anything........different people react to things in different ways. For example, if me and you were sitting down at mcdonald's and a terrorist came in and forced us to go skydiving.......you might say "yes, i love skydiving!!!!". I might say, "no, i am afraid of heights!!!!!!!". The experience may be traumatic for me but to you it would be an adventure. Just because u like skydiving does that mean u were born that way?

Edited July 7, 2005 by infinitelord1