Protestantism is Heresy.

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why friend? wanna talk...need a hug?

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joeyo and I just decided to stay up all night cause we have too much hmwk

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btw, "hybrid" is a copyright term that I am using in a ecumenical book I am working on right now

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eh... for me it's mostly just finals stress and too much homework... i'm working on a creative nonfiction project for school that's really emotionally intense.

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[quote name='Revprodeji' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:24 AM']btw, "hybrid" is a copyright term that I am using in a ecumenical book I am working on right now
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but doesn't the title "hybrid" imply that a person can somehow be both catholic and protestant? how are these two terms not mutually exclusive?

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[quote name='Revprodeji' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:40 AM']
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is that you answering my question?

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no, its me being tired and trying to do greek hmwk.

on my intro thread I talk about it a bit. Im a product of a broken home with being raised and formally educated in both eccesiologies. Sharpining my teeth in the one, and reverting to the other.

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[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:35 AM']but doesn't the title "hybrid" imply that a person can somehow be both catholic and protestant? how are these two terms not mutually exclusive?
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that's what I was thinking

Rev, I was brought up in a lukewarm "Catholic" family and then "became a Christian" in college and started doing InterVarsity and going to Protestant Churches. You could say I also came in to the Catholic Church, came to faith in the Protestant Church and then reverted back to the Catholic church. But I made a decision. I decided to be Catholic. To be Catholic is to willfully submit to the teachings of the Catholic Church and to subject yourself to the authority of the Magisterium. You're either submitting to all that the Magisterium teaches to be true, or you're a "cafeteria" Catholic who's not really Catholic at all

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[quote name='Revprodeji' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:44 AM']no, its me being tired and trying to do greek hmwk.

on my intro thread I talk about it a bit. Im a product of a broken home with being raised and formally educated in both eccesiologies. Sharpining my teeth in the one, and reverting to the other.
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i read ur post in the convert thread and it didn't answer my question.

the word "hybrid" implies that one can be both catholic and protestant. how is this possible? is that what you mean to imply by the word?

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photo..not to be mean, but I know what it means to be catholic. You have a tendency to talk down on me. I wonder why.

my faith as a protestant was great, so was my theology, I just feel I have come to a better understanding within the rc. That doesnt mean I throw out my faith as a protestant, the dna of what it was that brought me to faith.

no more preaching on this subject.. Im a hybrid and I hope to never lose that part of my faith

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more questions:

do you believe that the Catholic Church possesses the fullness of Truth? are there any Catholic teachings that you do not believe in? if so, what are they?

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btw, i'm not trying to badger you or subject you to some "litmus test." i'm just trying to understand where you're comin from.

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give me a list..

j.p..

JoeyO...this is fun. I sometimes wish these people knew me in real life.

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[quote name='Revprodeji' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:58 AM']photo..not to be mean, but I know what it means to be catholic. You have a tendency to talk down on me. I wonder why.
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if it seemed like I was talking down to you, I apologize. I was simply stating that you can't be Catholic and non-Catholic at the same time. if there are elements of a person's beliefs that go against what the Church teaches, that person cannot really call themselves Catholic

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I wouldnt say I go against church teaching, and I have a group of mentors/influences that hold me in check. My roots run deep.

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[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:57 AM']i read ur post in the convert thread and it didn't answer my question.

the word "hybrid" implies that one can be both catholic and protestant. how is this possible? is that what you mean to imply by the word?
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[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 5 2005, 05:59 AM']more questions:

do you believe that the Catholic Church possesses the fullness of Truth? are there any Catholic teachings that you do not believe in? if so, what are they?
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would still like these questions answered

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i see you answered the last question. thank you

what about the other ones?

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np phatty

I was raised both catholic and baptist/free church,. So I have roots in both. Thus my take on things is both, Im a blend, a hybrid. Also, with my work and experience in TWT I have my teeth sharpened in the evangelical community that I could literally name the school I wanted and could get in based on my names of influence(fluff..vouch for me) but I reverted to catholicism where I was raised on my dad's side, so I am a blend, I submit to the teachings of the magistirum, yet I function as a protestant in the praxi of myself and the way I still can argue and the insight I have on an issue.

its late, but I hope that helps.

I am a confirmed catholic, typically rergarded as a great catholic theologian by those whom I know. I have a role in translating catholic dogma to protestant talk. I am very devout in my faith, but I bring the good from both.

"fullness of truth" is a tough term. I think the "church" is hurting from not having the protestant communities within its arms. I also have had episodes of debate on a few doctrines or better yet perceived doctrines(TWT in relation to platonic time, an NFP morality, and some indulgance) but I conduct these with the care of trained clergy and I am within the church on these views.

roots run deep, dna is there, I would never deny those things that made me a believer in the first place.

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Oy....Oh the oy....My version of hybrid, which I will call myself: I am FULLY Roman Catholic. I will not and do not disagree with the Roman Catholic Church. There are issues, ideas, etc. that the Church doesn't have an official stance on or gives a range (like the molinism, thomism thing). On those issues, I am more like a Protestant than the usual Catholic. Not that I'm protesting...maybe a better word would be Evangelical? Postmodern Evangelical Charismatic/Mystical Catholic...yeah that sounds about right. (I don't mean Postmodern in the sense that most people, especially Christians understand it. I include it, because Postmodernists are the group that I usually target when I discuss contemporary culture, etc.)