catholicinsd Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 [quote name='Maggie' post='1211186' date='Mar 10 2007, 01:23 AM']Congressman Janklow had a long history of reckless driving, he was a grown man, and, as I recall, he went through the stop sign at about 70 mph. He was charged with and convicted of vehicular manslaughter. Mrs. Bush has never been charged with a crime, and she was a 17-year-old kid when the incident occurred. She also doesn't have a position to resign from ("I regretfully announce that I am resigning from the... "office" of First Lady"? Would that require divorce or something?) I don't think it's fair to go after her just because you don't like her husband. I am not in love with him, myself, on many issues. But try looking at this objectively. The average, non-partisan Joes who populate America would find your line of argument in extremely poor taste.[/quote] The issue, if you wanna bring up the blood on Mrs. Bush's hands, don't bring use President Clinton's affair againist his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1212070' date='Mar 11 2007, 01:51 PM']The issue, if you wanna bring up the blood on Mrs. Bush's hands, don't bring use President Clinton's affair againist his wife.[/quote] Who blames Mr. Clinton's affair on Mrs. Clinton? You are right, that would be irrational. I thought the issue was that she was pro-abortion, and you said that well, Mrs. Bush killed a boy... Edited March 11, 2007 by Maggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 [quote name='Maggie' post='1212075' date='Mar 11 2007, 11:53 AM']Who blames Mr. Clinton's affair on Mrs. Clinton? You are right, that would be irrational. I thought the issue was that she was pro-abortion, and you said that well, Mrs. Bush killed a boy...[/quote] Mrs. bush is also pro-abortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 But she isn't running for president... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isilzha Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 [quote name='Totus Tuus' post='1211085' date='Mar 9 2007, 10:19 PM']I'm a single-issue voter; not republican or democrat. It seems like the definition of "republican" has changed to "anti-democrat", and "democrat" has changed to "anti-republican". Life is our main issue now, so I'm voting for anyone who is pro-life, whether or not they're democrats or republicans.[/quote] I'm ok with that. But I always figure as far as pro-life things go a pro-life republican is worth more than a pro-life democrat because of the party leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='Maggie' post='1212084' date='Mar 11 2007, 01:02 PM']But she isn't running for president... [/quote] So its ok to attack someone for their stance on an issue, but its not ok to attack a person of the same opinion who isn't? Are you blind to the double standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote]So its ok to attack someone for their stance on an issue, but its not ok to attack a person of the same opinion who isn't? Are you blind to the double standard.[/quote] I don't think it's okay to "attack" anybody. I think Laura Bush's position on abortion is irrelevant. Nobody has ever cast a vote for her and nobody ever will. Mrs. Clinton is running for president. Her opinion matters. People are going to criticize her and base their votes on her opinions. Who would base their vote on Mrs. Bush's opinion? Nobody. Unless you decided not to vote for her husband b/c you knew the wife was pro-choice. Which would not make a lot of sense. Although no one is ever going to vote for George Bush again, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1210754' date='Mar 9 2007, 12:46 AM']After the death of Emmitt Till, his murders confessed to the crime. However, the Republican President Eisenhower, refused to grant the special Excutive permission needed to dismiss the Double Jeopardy rule, in this case, and therefore would clear the way for the re-trial of the murderers.[/quote] No replies to this? How we admit the Republican Party is more racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='Maggie' post='1212382' date='Mar 11 2007, 10:47 PM']I don't think it's okay to "attack" anybody. I think Laura Bush's position on abortion is irrelevant. Nobody has ever cast a vote for her and nobody ever will. Mrs. Clinton is running for president. Her opinion matters. People are going to criticize her and base their votes on her opinions. Who would base their vote on Mrs. Bush's opinion? Nobody. Unless you decided not to vote for her husband b/c you knew the wife was pro-choice. Which would not make a lot of sense. Although no one is ever going to vote for George Bush again, either. [/quote] The carp being said about Mrs. Clinton is complete lunacy. George W. Bush is foricng his beliefs on us, more the Senator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1212407' date='Mar 12 2007, 12:36 AM']The carp being said about Mrs. Clinton is complete lunacy. George W. Bush is foricng his beliefs on us, more the Senator.[/quote] I'm not aware of the president "forcing" any beliefs on us... unless you mean the faith-based policy initiative? I think the main point being said about Senator Clinton is that she is extreme on the abortion issue. Which she is. Anyone who is against outlawing partial birth abortion is extreme, and that includes Republican front-runners like Giuliani. [quote]After the death of Emmitt Till, his murders confessed to the crime. However, the Republican President Eisenhower, refused to grant the special Excutive permission needed to dismiss the Double Jeopardy rule, in this case, and therefore would clear the way for the re-trial of the murderers.[/quote] A president can not over-ride the Constitution with an Executive Order, no matter how much he would like to. This is not a characteristic of a particular political party (thank goodness!). A Democrat's hands are tied just as much as a Republican's, if they both are telling the truth when they swear the oath to uphold the Constitution. The Double Jeopardy principle is a key part of the Bill of Rights. It can not just be flushed, even if there are people we really wish could be put away. After all, if the President can override the 5th amendment, he can also issue an Executive Order to cancel the 1st (freedom of religion, etc). Luckily this would be illegal. I hope you don't consider me a racist. I would make the same decision as President Eisenhower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='Maggie' post='1212439' date='Mar 12 2007, 12:30 AM']I'm not aware of the president "forcing" any beliefs on us... unless you mean the faith-based policy initiative?[/quote] That and this war, which nobody in the White house knows what to do with. [quote]A president can not over-ride the Constitution with an Executive Order, no matter how much he would like to. This is not a characteristic of a particular political party (thank goodness!). A Democrat's hands are tied just as much as a Republican's, if they both are telling the truth when they swear the oath to uphold the Constitution. The Double Jeopardy principle is a key part of the Bill of Rights. It can not just be flushed, even if there are people we really wish could be put away. After all, if the President can override the 5th amendment, he can also issue an Executive Order to cancel the 1st (freedom of religion, etc). Luckily this would be illegal. I hope you don't consider me a racist. I would make the same decision as President Eisenhower.[/quote] In certain cases a President can order a retrail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 you sure do like to assume what all of our officials assume and dont assume. Stop trying to act like you know what the War in Iraq is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1212407' date='Mar 11 2007, 10:36 PM']The carp being said about Mrs. Clinton is complete lunacy.[/quote] then it fits her well, because she is a socialist lunatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='Didymus' post='1212535' date='Mar 12 2007, 01:33 PM']you sure do like to assume what all of our officials assume and dont assume. Stop trying to act like you know what the War in Iraq is all about.[/quote] Its quite obvious President has no plan whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onathing1 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1212547' date='Mar 12 2007, 02:51 PM']Its quite obvious President has no plan whatsoever.[/quote] Wow, I didn't know you knew what the President was thinking! Or that you had some in to what's happening in the White House. Dude, seriously, you're being annoying. You just need to come to grips with the fact that you have no argument for anything other than 'the first lady killed someone'. Just stop, you're making a fool of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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