Norseman82 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Many of whom were raised Catholic but feel completely unwelcome in the Church. There was a church sign I saw once that read something on the order of "If you feel far away from God....who moved?".
4588686 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Come on, isn't that a little disingenuous? If a higher-up in the GOP sent a letter of support to the Klan on party letterhead, would it be reasonable to expect people to say, "Well, I mean, he doesn't speak for the party as a whole." No, that's preposterous -- they'd catch all kinds of flak (rightly so), heads would roll, apologies would be made, etc. Until/unless NARAL redacts the graphic (assuming this was sent out via the official NARAL twitter, which I understand it was) and reprimands the individual who went rogue and posted it without authorization, I think it is perfectly acceptable to suppose that the organization as a whole support the message. That would be a problem because it is indicative of support for the Klan within the GOP. What is this indicative of? NARAL did not put it out on the twitter feed. It was placed on the facebook site.
Maggyie Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 That would be a problem because it is indicative of support for the Klan within the GOP. What is this indicative of? NARAL did not put it out on the twitter feed. It was placed on the facebook site. Okay, twitter vs facebook, what is the difference. Use my example. Phillip Morris puts out a facebook graphic that says "Dear Mr President of the American Cancer Society: Thank you. Signed, Smokers Everywhere." What is that indicative of, that Philip Morris is doing that?
4588686 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) Okay, twitter vs facebook, what is the difference. Use my example. Phillip Morris puts out a facebook graphic that says "Dear Mr President of the American Cancer Society: Thank you. Signed, Smokers Everywhere." What is that indicative of, that Philip Morris is doing that? That Philip Morris' communication department felt there was some utility to be gained by composing that graphic. Edited September 21, 2013 by Hasan
Vincent Vega Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) That would be a problem because it is indicative of support for the Klan within the GOP. What is this indicative of? This is indicative of NARAL support of Pope Francis and his words or actions, meaning that one of the two entities involved have erred greatly, since they hold diametrically opposed views. NARAL did not put it out on the twitter feed. It was placed on the facebook site. Okay, my mistake. Was the it official mouthpiece of the organization, or a supporter-run entity? Edited September 22, 2013 by USAirwaysIHS
4588686 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 This is indicative of NARAL support of Pope Francis and his words or actions, meaning that one of the two entities involved have erred greatly, since they hold diametrically opposed views. Pope Francis believes that women who have had an abortion should be treated cruelly by society?
Maggyie Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 That Philip Morris' communication department felt there was some utility to be gained by composing that graphic. Yup. And NARAL's communications dept (aka NARAL, since really the marketing team is not somehow separate from them) felt there was some utility in composing this graphic. So the Pope's words are being used to further NARAL's agenda.
4588686 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 So the Pope's words are being used to further NARAL's agenda. No, they aren't.
Maggyie Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 No, they aren't. No? The social marketing team at NARAL isn't trying to further their agenda through their social marketing arms? What are they doing then? What is the role of the marketing/PR team at NARAL?
Vincent Vega Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Pope Francis believes that women who have had an abortion should be treated cruelly by society? Francis believes (presumably) that abortion is a grave evil and is under no circumstance permissible. NARAL believes that a woman should be able to have an abortion at any time for any reason that she chooses.
4588686 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Francis believes (presumably) that abortion is a grave evil and is under no circumstance permissible. NARAL believes that a woman should be able to have an abortion at any time for any reason that she chooses. You avoided the question.
CatholicsAreKewl Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Does Benedict believe women who have had an abortion should be treated cruelly by society?
4588686 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Does Benedict believe women who have had an abortion should be treated cruelly by society? Probably not.
Vincent Vega Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) You avoided the question. To answer the question, idk, never heard him speak to the subject. Kind of a tangential question anyway (?). I thought your question mark was asking me to elucidate which views of theirs are diametrically opposed. Edited September 22, 2013 by USAirwaysIHS
4588686 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 To answer the question, idk, never heard him speak to the subject. Kind of a tangential question anyway (?). I thought your question mark was asking me to elucidate which views of theirs are diametrically opposed. There's no question that some of the views of NARAL and some of the views of Pope Francis are diametrically opposed. Your post implied that all of their views are diametrically opposed. Which is not true.
CatholicsAreKewl Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Lol at the fact we have 2 pages dedicated to this. Why are two atheists spending their saturday night on a Catholic forum? Edited September 22, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl
4588686 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Lol at the fact we have 2 pages dedicated to this. Why are two atheists spending their saturday night on a Catholic forum? I'll be gone once I get drunk enough not to be bored while out.
CatholicsAreKewl Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) I'll be gone once I get drunk enough not to be bored while out. I usually phatmass when I'm out. "Hey what are you doing on your phone?" "I'm on a Catholic rap forum." "No really. What are you doing?" Edited September 22, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl
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