KnightofChrist Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 It does when its not their moneyAnd it also does when literally the entire country is suffocating and the top 1% are rolling in the dough. Money and power and continuing being siphoned to the top...this is just another step in that direction. We need a balance. Well yeah, for example when a company receives a handout from government, they shouldn't be able to use that money. The trouble is it gets mixed together with money that the company did make.I don't trust the government to balance anything. It can't even balance it's own budget. We cannot trust it to balance the economics of society. I don't see how we could balance society without first violating free speech or other liberties and rights. The they've got more money than us appeal has never really been a powerful message to compel me. Rich people are people too, and they may have much more money than us, but I don't see that as a reason to limit their rights.
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Crosscut's superpower now in bezerker mode! Full effect!
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 This is allowing corruption to spread. Free speech shouldnt be tied to your bank account. Because of this, "free speech" and the voice of soooooooo many will be lost because they are poor. And dont try to tell me that funds to campaigns have nothing to do with electoral success. Yes, we need equality now! We should limit all sorts of political contributions and tax more money and give that to the poor so they can donate to their favorite causes and politicians equally just like everyone else! We probably need to form a government committee or two to make sure it works. And we need to take rush limbaugh off the air. He's not fair.... and he's fat.
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Yes, we need equality now! We should limit all sorts of political contributions and tax more money and give that to the poor so they can donate to their favorite causes and politicians equally just like everyone else! We probably need to form a government committee or two to make sure it works. And we need to take rush limbaugh off the air. He's not fair.... and he's fat. Because putting the government in control of free speech is the only way to make sure we are all really free and equal!
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 ND go take the stick out of your ass and let the adults talk pls k thnx. Your incessant petulant arm flailing is getting annoying.
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Yes. I do want the crony capitalism, corporate welfare, too big to fail nonsense to cease. If a billion dollar company looses it's money then that is that. They chose to spend their property how they wished and they chose wrong, they shouldn't be propped up but rather should be allowed to fall. I meant the monopoly people refer to as government.
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 http://theweek.com/article/index/106558/the-progressive-fallacy-on-free-speech
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 ND go take the stick out of your ass and let the adults talk pls k thnx. Your incessant petulant arm flailing is getting annoying. On one hand, I would hate to be annoying, because nobody here is ever annoying... On the other hand, I really want to fight for equality... Hmm... I think I'll leave the stick there for now. http://theweek.com/article/index/106558/the-progressive-fallacy-on-free-speech You must really hate poor people. Yes, I too find that one-liners from Comedy Central form the foundation of my political ideology.
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) If it's possible to buy the power government has, then perhaps it's dumb to grant it to them in the first place. Who believes that if they limit campaign contributions, the corporations will suddenly be stymied? Who is that stupid? Edited April 16, 2014 by Winchester
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Buuuuuuuuurn! You totally got me ND! Edited April 16, 2014 by CrossCuT
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) If it's possible to buy the power government has, then perhaps it's dumb to grant it to them in the first place. Who believes that if they limit campaign contributions, the corporations will suddenly be stymied? Who is that stupid? The system is corrupt, what do you expect? Im sure at one point people were honest and nice in politics...not anymore. Campaign contributions is one thing that would help, but also all the insane money thrown around in lobbyists is another big thing. Are you stupid enough to think that these DONT have an effect? Thats like the entire problem. Money is running our government...money is buying votes! Corporations are dictating how things should be. Why? Because they are saying "Hey dude, look at this huge pile of cash! It can be yours if you vote yes on this bill we want passed! What do you say?" If you honestly dont think thats the problem, then ship yourself off somewhere else so that the rest of us can actually solve this [i][color=#ff0000]poo[/color][/i]. Money is continually being siphoned to the top. They are rolling in the dough and the rest of us are screwed. But guess what? Now that they have all the money, we cant afford stuff anymore. So their solution? Increase taxes, cut funding to tons of programs. That way, we get even LESS while we try to scramble to close the huge gaps they are creating. Edited April 16, 2014 by CrossCuT
KnightofChrist Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 The over simplified appeal from Envy is a very powerful one. Blame the rich, and putting the rich in their place has been the battle cry of tyrants through out time.
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 The over simplified appeal from Envy is a very powerful one. Blame the rich, and putting the rich in their place has been the battle cry of tyrants through out time. Sigh. Im so glad you are blind to what they are doing. They are very grateful for your efforts to cloak them KoC.
Winchester Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Are you stupid enough to think that these DONT have an effect? Where exactly do you get that out of my posts? Edited April 16, 2014 by Winchester
NotreDame Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Who believes that if they limit campaign contributions, the corporations will suddenly be stymied? Who is that stupid? of course they'll be stymied, because if we have legal limits evil corporations won't control the media!
KnightofChrist Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Sigh.Im so glad you are blind to what they are doing. They are very grateful for your efforts to cloak them KoC. Whatever I can do for the Rand Corporation and the reverse vampires.
CrossCuT Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Whatever I can do for the Rand Corporation and the reverse vampires. Ps. To get back to the gun topic, the above is my weapon against bad guys. Edited April 16, 2014 by CrossCuT
KnightofChrist Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Whatever I can do for the Rand Corporation and the reverse vampires. Image no workie. Maybe it's the secret super rich order of the stone cutters trying to stop you from exposing them.
KnightofChrist Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Ps. To get back to the gun topic, the above is my weapon against bad guys. Vampires are the devil! THE DEVIL!
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