PhuturePriest Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Using Norad is exactly the kind of delusional thinking that I will teach my children to avoid. I don't see what jumping on trampolines has to do with anything, it's exercise. Jumping on a bed is stupid, you'll just break the bed and are very likely to injure yourself. Sounds like you're the one who needs a hug...poor boy with cats in the cradle. Kids need time...it dosn't need to be adults playing, just adults giving them time. I know many people who's only memories are of their grandparents teaching them...and they value that extremely and have good work ethics. Infact, most of the people I know with good work ethics had adults who taught children real life skills. Some have active imaginations to this day, but it was up to them to have it, not the adults in their life.
PhuturePriest Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Using Norad is exactly the kind of delusional thinking that I will teach my children to avoid. I don't see what jumping on trampolines has to do with anything, it's exercise. Jumping on a bed is stupid, you'll just break the bed and are very likely to injure yourself. Sounds like you're the one who needs a hug...poor boy with cats in the cradle. Kids need time...it dosn't need to be adults playing, just adults giving them time. I know many people who's only memories are of their grandparents teaching them...and they value that extremely and have good work ethics. Infact, most of the people I know with good work ethics had adults who taught children real life skills. Some have active imaginations to this day, but it was up to them to have it, not the adults in their life. No kid on the planet would see jumping on a trampoline as "exercise". The fact that it's exercise is just convenient, because jumping on trampolines is really fun, and that's what kids care about. I've never heard a kid say "I need to go jump on the trampoline; I haven't exercised at all today!" If my father was a businessman that was always away, and the only time I ever spent with him as a child was speaking to him through Skype, I would have treasured those moments. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have preferred to play pretend with him in the yard, it just means I appreciated every moment I that I got with him because it was so rare.
Archaeology cat Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 To quote Albert Einstein, "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research"
tinytherese Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 As a child, I would've been sad and confused if my parents hadn't played along when I pretended. I would've thought that they didn't like me or that they were implying that pretending was stupid, therefore something was wrong with me.
add Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Encouraging a young child to be honest, giving, and kind to strangers by rewarding said behavior with favor is not far from the truth. IE: "DEAR EDITOR: I am 8 years old. "Some of my little friends say there is no Santa Claus. "Papa says, 'If you see it in THE SUN it's so.' "Please tell me the truth; is there a Santa Claus? "VIRGINIA O'HANLON. "115 WEST NINETY-FIFTH STREET." VIRGINIA, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus. It would be as dreary as if there were no VIRGINIAS. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished. Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world. You may tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, VIRGINIA, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding. No Santa Claus! Thank God! he lives, and he lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood. Edited December 9, 2013 by add
PhuturePriest Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Encouraging a young child to be honest, giving, and kind to strangers by rewarding said behavior with favor is not far from the truth. IE: "DEAR EDITOR: I am 8 years old. "Some of my little friends say there is no Santa Claus. "Papa says, 'If you see it in THE SUN it's so.' "Please tell me the truth; is there a Santa Claus? "VIRGINIA O'HANLON. "115 WEST NINETY-FIFTH STREET." VIRGINIA, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus. It would be as dreary as if there were no VIRGINIAS. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished. Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world. You may tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, VIRGINIA, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding. No Santa Claus! Thank God! he lives, and he lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood. This seems kind of heavy for a small child.
Quid Est Veritas? Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 As a kid in second grade I believed so strongly that I denounced one of my non-believing classmates as a heretic for not believing in Santa. It got ugly. :P I can see both sides. I really enjoyed the time that I spent believing in Santa, but when I found out (through some serious snooping) that he wasn't real I was devastated. It wasn't because I'd been "lied to". It was because he wasn't real. I imagine it was comparable to finding out that God isn't real. I'm not sure what I'm going to do for my kids.
add Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 This seems kind of heavy for a small child. Have you always been a fun-sucker? Remember what he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
PhuturePriest Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Have you always been a fun-sucker? Remember what he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. I'm not being a fun-sucker, I'm saying if that was written for a child, the language should have been a little easier to understand. I understood every word of it, but it's written in a heavy and dramatic way that might confuse a child.
jeffboom Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 My parents, communist sympathizers, offered an alternative to the evil consumerist Santa Claus. His name is Father Frost! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Frost_(fairy_tale)
CatholicsAreKewl Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Dedushka Moroz! Bringing "let's take the 'Christ' out of 'Christmas'" to a new level! Edited December 10, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl
Slappo Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 There is no such person as santa you claimed to be santa you lied it's as simple as that. Wow you have a very very disturbing idea of what is a lie and what is not a lie. Tolkien was obviously a huge liar since he wrote his children Christmas stories pretending to be santa clause. Wait, I'm sure Jesus was a huge liar too considering he told PARABLES.
Slappo Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Also, to pretend isn't to be childish, but childlike. I pray that I can be more childlike every day, for Jesus said "Let the children come to me."
PhuturePriest Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Also, to pretend isn't to be childish, but childlike. I pray that I can be more childlike every day, for Jesus said "Let the children come to me." I suppose Saint Therese' spirituality is completely wrong since it's centered on becoming more and more like "a little child".
KnightofChrist Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. - Matthew 18:3
CrossCuT Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. - Matthew 18:3 I will not stoop to that level
PhuturePriest Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 I will not stoop to that level I'm above such things, personally.
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