little2add Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Ask Me Anything! what kind of Brain is yours, male or female? there is definitely a big difference. I’m not talking about emotions, either. I believe males and females both have equal amounts of emotions. i’m talking about things Like how you perceive or say or do stuff. IE: females: Tend to talk a lot males: as a general rule, say what they have to say in a few words as possible. females: have stronger bonds to children especially if they’re their own males: care about their kids as much as there mother does but the motherly does not compare or even come close to the special bond of motherly love i’m a typical male and I think like one too. My wife often says that my life would be very boring without her... ( that’s true, but I won’t admit it to her) Edited February 13, 2021 by little2add
Anomaly Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 @little2addI think that’s a point being made in this thread. How much of that behavior is “male brain” you’re born with, or role behaviors that are taught through society of your particular culture?
little2add Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 May question wasn’t that. I asked what type do you have @Anomaly .
Peace Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Anomaly said: @little2addI think that’s a point being made in this thread. How much of that behavior is “male brain” you’re born with, or role behaviors that are taught through society of your particular culture? Impossible to quantify but if you read the book "The Female Brain" and some other research, you'll notice some things like the interconnections in the brain being generally weighted differently between men and women. There are also big hormonal differences from a very early stage (even within the womb, from what I recall). Even very young boys and girls will generally exhibit different scores on certain mental aptitude tests (girls being better in some areas, boys in others). My guess is that there are certain things that neither men nor women are naturally inclined to do (like go and fight in a war, for example) but then we pick and choose certain things as male roles (go fight and die for the country) and other things as female roles, and socialize the groups into taking them on, in order for our civilizations to advance. This is where I think a lot of the culture comes in.
little2add Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 nevermind culture influences. there are vast differences in brain function between men and woman. they have nothing to do with learned behavior. I'm not talking about feminine or masculine attributes either.
Anomaly Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Imma gonna raise a red flag here. For example, just because males tend to be mechanically inclined, doesn’t mean a woman can’t be a great engineer or even a mediocre engineer because she has a female brain. Why is it unwanted and weird if a little boy is more interested in playing house and cooking then baseball or trucks? How strict should culture and parents be in enforcing gender roles/identities? At what point does different interests and personalities cause behaviors that manifest as trans-gender behavior in a culture? When does sensitivity in a guy become sissy, or gay, or transgender? When does being stoic and mechanical in a woman become butch or nice lady or dude?
ralfy Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) The Basics on Gender Ideology and Catholicism from Person and Identity: https://personandidentity.com/the-basics/ Edited February 17, 2021 by ralfy
Jaime Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 5:36 PM, little2add said: Is the Church doctrine clear on that matter as well? (The dead horse thing I mean) still waiting
little2add Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 humans are divine creatures created by God in his image. At the core of our being, each one of us has the identity of being a child of God, made in his image and likeness, redeemed by the precious blood of his Son, Jesus, and destined to enjoy eternity with him in heaven. That's who we are. It takes two humans of the opposite sex to procreate. Any deviation it’s not the way to salvation and eternal happiness. This is the way this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master.
Jaime Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, little2add said: humans are divine creatures created by God in his image. At the core of our being, each one of us has the identity of being a child of God, made in his image and likeness, redeemed by the precious blood of his Son, Jesus, and destined to enjoy eternity with him in heaven. That's who we are. It takes two humans of the opposite sex to procreate. Any deviation it’s not the way to salvation and eternal happiness. This is the way this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. still not a doctrine on this matter
Jaime Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, little2add said: That’s my story and I’m sticking to it That's fine but when Phatmassers bring up subjects that you aren't comfortable with, it does no one any good to state things to be clear doctrine when you have no idea what you're talking about. The Church has doctrines on chastity. It does not have anything down about transgenderism, gender fluidity etc. except to say to respect the dignity of all people when we interact with them. There is nothing about attire except it warns against wearing things that can be sexually distracting to others (as in try not to turn other people on in church) But as far as I know, that's about it. If the author of this thread is practicing chastity, I don't see any reason for fraternal correction. Since that isn't the subject of the thread, I will assume the best.
Anomaly Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 So, has @CuriositasEtFidemstill here, or just another flash in the Phan?
little2add Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) On 2/10/2021 at 7:28 PM, Jaime said: I’m a practicing Catholic with a degree in Theology. Good for you So anyone who acknowledges biological reality or believes marriage is the union of male and female have no idea what you're talking about. 9 hours ago, Jaime said: have no idea what you're talking about. These truths are accepted Truth is objective and unchanging, not decided by man. Human beings are either male or female from the moment of conception. A person’s sex is imprinted in every cell of his or her body and cannot change. Authentic sexual union, open to the possibility of new life, is only possible between a man and a woman. These are the facts of human existence. Our faith further illuminates the truth, as Scripture reveals God’s plan — “male and female he created them” (Gn 1:27) — and Church teaching exhorts “everyone, man and woman,” to “acknowledge and accept his sexual identity” as a gift from God. A person’s sexual identity has purpose: “Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented towards the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life” Edited February 19, 2021 by little2add
Jaime Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, little2add said: Good for you So anyone who acknowledges biological reality or believes marriage is the union of male and female have no idea what you're talking about. These truths are accepted Truth is objective and unchanging, not decided by man. Human beings are either male or female from the moment of conception. A person’s sex is imprinted in every cell of his or her body and cannot change. Authentic sexual union, open to the possibility of new life, is only possible between a man and a woman. These are the facts of human existence. Our faith further illuminates the truth, as Scripture reveals God’s plan — “male and female he created them” (Gn 1:27) — and Church teaching exhorts “everyone, man and woman,” to “acknowledge and accept his sexual identity” as a gift from God. A person’s sexual identity has purpose: “Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented towards the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life” You got called out and now you're trying to deflect by quoting scripture. No one is arguing against scripture my friend. Everything I've said is fact. I'm just asking you to either offer the doctrine you're referring to (which doesn't exist) or just admit that this is your opinion.
fides' Jack Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Jaime said: If the author of this thread is practicing chastity, I don't see any reason for fraternal correction. Since that isn't the subject of the thread, I will assume the best. This is a serious moral error. The author of this thread is making the statement that she is claiming to be male when she is actually biologically female. That is against the natural order, and hence against natural law. It doesn't take a specific doctrinal statement about transgenderism to understand this, and you are leading people away from the truth and away from the Church by not condemning it. You risk causing scandal, yourself.
Jaime Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, fides' Jack said: This is a serious moral error. The author of this thread is making the statement that she is claiming to be male when she is actually biologically female. That is against the natural order, and hence against natural law. It doesn't take a specific doctrinal statement about transgenderism to understand this, and you are leading people away from the truth and away from the Church by not condemning it. You risk causing scandal, yourself. You're hoping you're right but you're not. (three you'res in one line). Thinking you're a man when you have the body of a woman is not against natural law. Just as the Church doesn't say having same sex attraction is against natural law. To go against natural law requires one to perform an unnatural action. People's feelings are not condemnable. People's actions are. When my godson says he's a dinosaur. He's not doing anything harmful. I don't feel the need to call a psychologist or throw holy water on him. If however, because he feels like a dinosaur, he tears his mother's head off and eats her entrails, well then yes that action would be against natural law. To use a more clear example (since we have no real writings on transgenderism) we can look at what the Church teaches about same sex attraction (note I'm not saying that transgenders necessarily have same sex attraction but it's an apt example for the Church's teaching on natural law) "The Church seeks to enable every person to live out the universal call to holiness. Persons with a homosexual inclination ought to receive every aid and encouragement to embrace this call personally and fully. This will unavoidably involve much struggle and self-mastery, for following Jesus always means following the way of the Cross...The Sacraments of the Eucharist and of Penance are essential sources of consolation and aid on this path." - USCCB, Ministry to Persons with a Homosexual Inclination (2006), p. 13 I'm not saying it. The bishop's are saying it. There are lots of actions that go against natural law but no inclinations or psychological states. To quote someone here "doctrine is clear on this matter". The author hasn't offered any actions that they have done. The author has simply stated that they feel like a man and are more comfortable with that. You, Jack aren't offering aid or encouragement. Your condemnation (based on no actions) doesn't enable this person to live out a universal call to holiness. Espousing something as Church teaching when it is not risks causing scandal, ot sharing what the Church actually says.
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