i<3LSOP Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1329263458' post='2387146'] the world is stupid [/quote] I was gonna say that.
PhuturePriest Posted February 15, 2012 Author Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1329310840' post='2387397'] I am a little tainted re unions. When my dad was a young accountant, he worked for a company that was unionized. The plant workers went on strike and my dad had to work many extra hours outside his normal accountant responsibilities, driving forklift, loading trucks, etc. to maintain as much as possible production. He was violently harassed, having bottles, rocks, etc thrown at him. Union members would be standing in his driveway as he returned home threatening him. He was married with three kids and me on the way. His coworker was severely beaten at his home. My dad believes that if his pregnant wife was not standing at the door to the driveway, he would have been beaten too. This was many years ago, but it still hits me emotionally. [/quote] [quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1329261440' post='2387132'] Any work you do could take work away from !gasp! a union worker. That is why little kids are not allowed to clean up parts of my city, the last time they did it, a grievance was filed and won. [/quote] Exactly. Of course, watch what you say, because this is what's known as "politically incorrect". The only thing that's saved you is you're a regulator. If it had been me that said that I would've been given the blood eagle by now.
Papist Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1329263458' post='2387146'] the world is stupid [/quote] If only the humans would just go away, the world would be a paradise.
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1329325891' post='2387507'] If only the humans would just go away, the world would be a paradise. [/quote] Just most humans... We will need some to survive... [img]http://socal.umwblogs.org/files/2010/10/Dr-Strangelove1.jpg[/img] Edited February 15, 2012 by Laudate_Dominum
Winchester Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1329324621' post='2387498'] Exactly. Of course, watch what you say, because this is what's known as "politically incorrect". The only thing that's saved you is you're a regulator. If it had been me that said that I would've been given the blood eagle by now. [/quote] We have blood eagles?
Luigi Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Benedict XVI re unions. It's brief, but you can look up more if you're interested. [url="http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/07/08/papal-encyclical-workers-rights-to-form-unions-must-be-honored/"]http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/07/08/papal-encyclical-workers-rights-to-form-unions-must-be-honored/[/url]
Lil Red Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1329310840' post='2387397']I am a little tainted re unions. [/quote] whaddya got against reunions? it's a great opportunity to get drunk and make fun of your relatives or old classmates.
Winchester Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 Were there any paragraphs about using laws to compel union membership? My union sent around a tract encouraging me to support Obama's jobs bill because there would be money allocated to fire departments. This money would come from expansion of the money supply--which is the modern version of currency debasement. Which is a form of theft.
Papist Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1329326957' post='2387512'] Just most humans... We will need some to survive... [img]http://socal.umwblogs.org/files/2010/10/Dr-Strangelove1.jpg[/img] [/quote] Can't afford to have a mine-shaft gap!!!!
Papist Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1329330026' post='2387546'] whaddya got against reunions? it's a great opportunity to get drunk and make fun of your relatives or old classmates. [/quote] It's just everyone thinks I am a son of their classmate. It gets frustrating at times.
Vincent Vega Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1329324721' post='2387499'] for a manly man, you sure cry victim alot. [/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFuhCfb3Fk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFuhCfb3Fk[/url]
BG45 Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1329330211' post='2387550'] Can't afford to have a mine-shaft gap!!!! [/quote] How much do you think Dust would be angry if we called him what that dude called the President?
PhuturePriest Posted February 16, 2012 Author Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1329324721' post='2387499'] for a manly man, you sure cry victim alot. [/quote] This is the only time I have ever complained that I can remember. I think we can all agree I have gotten 99% mockery and anger, and very little understanding of what I am trying to say. You don't seem to offer much to a debate other than mockery.
Luigi Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) To say that unions and/or union members are blue-collar, money-grubbing, hard-drinking, work-avoiding, politician-buying slackers is the same thing as saying that: All priests are pedophiles; All nuns are unhappy prudes who couldn't get a man; All Republicans are fat-cat, ceegar-smoking, factory-owning millionaires who exploit the poor; All Democrats are flaming red-eyed liberals who kill babies and love Commies; And so forth. Yes, there are some of each. And that's what the stereotype is based on. But most members of any of these groups are complex individuals, not living stereotypes. I agree that it's much easier to understand the world if we simplify everyone - especially those with whom we disagree - into stereotypes. But it's not productive. Nuance, my friends.... nuance. Edited February 16, 2012 by Luigi
Winchester Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F9l-Wp4itQ[/media]
Vincent Vega Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1329357754' post='2387792'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F9l-Wp4itQ[/media] [/quote][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XruZm0oB0Fw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XruZm0oB0Fw[/url]
Luigi Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 If Ruby were re-named Lucille, this would be the follow-up to "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town." [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKDFKRTdlo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKDFKRTdlo[/url]
PhuturePriest Posted February 16, 2012 Author Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Luigi' timestamp='1329357351' post='2387787'] To say that unions and/or union members are blue-collar, money-grubbing, hard-drinking, work-avoiding, politician-buying slackers is the same thing as saying that: All priests are pedophiles; All nuns are unhappy prudes who couldn't get a man; All Republicans are fat-cat, ceegar-smoking, factory-owning millionaires who exploit the poor; All Democrats are flaming red-eyed liberals who kill babies and love Commies; And so forth. Yes, there are some of each. And that's what the stereotype is based on. But most members of any of these groups are complex individuals, not living stereotypes. I agree that it's much easier to understand the world if we simplify everyone - especially those with whom we disagree - into stereotypes. But it's not productive. Nuance, my friends.... nuance. [/quote] I am not going off stereotypes. Saying most Unions are breaking the country is not a stereotype, it's a fact. I am not saying Union workers are bad people. Rather, I'm saying most Unions are demanding an extravagant amount of money and pensions. Why should I have to pay for their retirement that they'll begin at the outrageous age of forty five to fifty, and sometimes even forty, when my dad works hard every day and won't be able to retire until he's sixty if he's lucky? Are they paying for my dad's retirement? Better yet, will they be paying my dad fifty thousand dollars minimum a year, not including that nice big pension? No. Why do they even need pensions? Haven't they ever heard of not spending every dime they have and throwing some in the bank so they can make their own retirement and not take more tax money? The fact is, people are starving and Unions are on strike because it's been decided they can't retire at age forty, and are filing grievances because a youth group painted a house for free. Not to mention they're actually winning these grievances. There are good Unions, but America no longer needs them, and they need to take a hike. This is not the economy to be going on strikes in, it's an economy that requires you to be grateful that you have a job. Edited February 16, 2012 by FuturePriest387
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