Trayvon Martin

[Selah]

And in other news, Spike Lee is a complete moron.

[4588686]

Poor guy. That kid really messed him up.

[url="http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475"]http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475[/url]

[Guest]

I just want to appologize for calling George Zimmerman scum in this thread. Without Gods forgiveness and blood I'm scum also. So prayers and healing for everyone involved.

Edited March 29, 2012 by Guest

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1333045208' post='2410273']
I just want to appologize for calling George Zimmerman scum in this thread. Without Gods forgiveness and blood I'm scum also. So prayers and healing for everyone involved.
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[Norseman82]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1332856473' post='2409125']
In spite of what the Law and Order franchise would have us believe, crimes are not investigated and tried in a matter of 42 minutes.
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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8lDYrvTILc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8lDYrvTILc[/url]

[Archaeology cat]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100148354/america-has-got-to-move-beyond-the-ugly-racial-politics-of-the-trayvon-martin-case/ In case anyone wants a Telegraph blogger's perspective

[Guest]

That was a really good read. Thanks for posting it.

[Winchester]

US Catholic blog says the real issue is that the government doesn't initiate violence against people with guns.


http://www.uscatholic.org/blog/2012/03/trayvon-issue-race-distracting-us-real-issue-scared-angry-people-guns

[Jesus_lol]

^that author is an idiot.

[Winchester]

You misspelled "typical Catholic idolator of the state".

[Norseman82]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1333137834' post='2410762']
US Catholic blog says the real issue is that the government doesn't initiate violence against people with guns.


[url="http://www.uscatholic.org/blog/2012/03/trayvon-issue-race-distracting-us-real-issue-scared-angry-people-guns"]http://www.uscatholi...gry-people-guns[/url]
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Did anyone else notice the link to the special section on gay and lesbian Catholics? In it was a link to an article praising same-sex marriage as allowing the Church to "encourage more loving, nurturing, and lasting relationships".

[Groo the Wanderer]

I just threw up...twice.

[Ice_nine]

Racism still exists, and is still a systematic problem.














not every human action is motivated by racism.















polemics solve nothing

[Groo the Wanderer]

do mics not on poles work better?

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1333150893' post='2410848']
Did anyone else notice the link to the special section on gay and lesbian Catholics? In it was a link to an article praising same-sex marriage as allowing the Church to "encourage more loving, nurturing, and lasting relationships".
[/quote]

yeah, that publication is not Catholic. peeps get on Voris for using the word Catholic for his videos, they shoudl go after these morons who have published this magazine for decades...its a religious community....out of chicago. I've butted heads with them before, because they used to have priests in my hometown parish. they ran the parish much like they run that magazine...

[PhuturePriest]

Honestly, I think the media needs to shut up about the whole situation. The media is trying to make it about racial tension as it is wont to do, and it is trying to cause controversy because that makes money. It's the media that should be on trial for inciting so many riots and murders. This man may be guilty, he may not be, but the media needs to put its gigantic nose out of it and let the cops do their job.

[Anomaly]

The Stand Your Ground law is starting to really get some scrutiny. I think I've changed my position and don't think the police screwed up as much as I thought. It's a fundamental problem with SYG laws in Florida. here:
[url="http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1222930.ece"]http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1222930.ece[/url] is a link to the Tampa Bay Times with some good articles. It seems that SYG laws have kept shooters from being prosecuted even when they chased after 'suspects' and a confrontation ensued.
Sadly, it seems the Martin's tragedy is about a flawed law and making it about race distracts from the real issue.
We have a society of laws to maintain order. Sadly, Zimmerman may never be legally charged or convicted of anything. It's an injustice to society to have protests claiming it's about race and believing that public opinion will force justice on Zimmerman. There are other lives being lost under the same circumstances with the killer not being tried in court, or if tried, having charges dismissed even if they pursued the victim after a confrontation.

The Times explains a couple of other similar tragedies with 'cop wannabes' or regular citizens confronting real criminals or just annoying people and a confrontation escalates to use of deadly force with the killer not being charged (regardless of race).
My understanding of the law, and the legislators who crafted the law said there is no way the law would protect someone who pursues the suspect, even after a confrontation originally ends. That is not the case.

Well intentioned people ask well intentioned law makers to make a law to protect citizens if they act to protect themselves. We're human and imperfect and sometimes we have to make corrections to well intentioned acts. Whatever the societal issues, confronting a stranger in your neighborhood is part of reality. Having laws that make it okay to do so with a gun in your pocket puts too much life and death responsibilty into the hands of an average citizen.

[Groo the Wanderer]

Well well well. It seems NBC (national barack channel) has been caught doctoring the 911 call to stir up racial tensions....

[url="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/02/nbc-launches-internal-probe-over-edited-11-call-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/"]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/02/nbc-launches-internal-probe-over-edited-11-call-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/[/url]

[color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3][left]NBC has launched an internal probe after running an edited version of the 911 call from George Zimmerman -- the man who shot and killed Trayvon Martin -- that made Zimmerman sound racist.[/left][/size][/font][/color]


[left][color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]NBC's "Today" show ran the edited audio of George Zimmerman's phone call to a police dispatcher in which Zimmerman says: "'This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black." [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][background=transparent]
But the audio recording in its entirety reveals that Zimmerman did not volunteer the information that Martin was black. Instead, Zimmerman was answering a question from a police dispatcher about the race of the "suspicious person" whom Zimmerman was speaking about.[/background][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][background=transparent]
A transcript of the complete 911 call shows that Zimmerman said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."[/background][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][background=transparent]
The 911 officer responded saying, "OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?"[/background][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][background=transparent]
"He looks black," Zimmerman said. [/background][/font][/color]


Anyone surprised? really? [/left]

[kujo]

Apparently the video that everyone said "proved" that there was no broken nose or welts on the back of George's head has been further scrutinized and shows, clearly, that he had several injuries to his head:

[url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html[/url]

[Groo the Wanderer]

I believe the media should be charged with a hate crime for manipulation of the evidence and deceiving the public.


I demand public floggings immediately